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Post by Kujones79 » Mon. Jan. 14, 2019 10:53 pm

Hi guys, I’m brand new to coal after doing some research and reading about the benefits. I purchased a new Hitzer 50-93 with a blower. It will be installed in my basement. The steps going upstairs are on the opposite end of the basement. Any advice on how to get that head to rise and heat the upstairs? I’m in an approximate 2200 sq foot rancher.

I live just outside of Allentown Pennsylvania. What places would you recommend I make my coal purchase from. I have a dump trailer I can pick up myself but also am not against paying for delivery.

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Post by CapeCoaler » Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 12:04 am

You need a clear return path for the cold air to return to the stove...
Without that you will not be moving the heat upstairs...
Basement walls insulated or bare...

 
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Post by VigIIPeaBurner » Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 12:59 am

What is the use of the room above the new stove's home? Any existing ducting? Relying on the stairway only would likely results in strong drafts and cold rooms in the corners of the house away from the stairway.

Cold air is the heaviest and will fall down the steps if the door is louvered or kept open. If there are grates cut into the floor in the end of the basement where your stove it, the cold air should push the heat up through the vents. It's no guarantee but it's likely what will happen with the vents closest to the stove. YMMV ... warm and cold air will seek its own level but sometimes a small speed fan can help it along.

As far as good coal goes, the closest is Lehigh. Many people here like the quality of the coal.

 
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Post by Jerrybro » Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 7:36 am

I put a vent in the floor directly above the stove. Warms the living room nicely. I have a box fan on low moving cold air towards the stove and leave the door to the basement stairs open. Works well. Not as well as if it was up in the living area, but well enough to warm the house and make the oil man feel neglected. My wife’s favorite part is the hot water coil. We have it feeding a hot water storage tank that is on the cold feed line to the oil boilers coil.

 
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Post by Kujones79 » Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 8:36 am

It’s an uninsulated below ground basement with no ducting.

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 11:24 am

The basements walls will absorb quite a bit of energy...

 
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Post by Den034071 » Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 5:12 pm

K Lehigh is like 32 miles to Tamaqua I can take you there .P M me that's Private Message . Im near Allentown too or call Lehigh .5706689060Den034071 aka Jack


 
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Post by carver012 » Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 7:36 pm

Hi, Are you down in the valley (proper) or north of the Huckleberry ridge?

 
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Post by Kujones79 » Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 8:34 pm

I’m in Quakertown along 309 and 663

 
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Post by 2001Sierra » Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 9:08 pm

Air movement can be difficult to understand, especially if you are relying on convection. Don't just start cutting vents in the floor expecting all this heat to simply rise. You will be amazed at how heavy cold air can be.

 
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Post by VigIIPeaBurner » Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 10:13 pm

2001Sierra wrote:
Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 9:08 pm
Air movement can be difficult to understand, especially if you are relying on convection. Don't just start cutting vents in the floor expecting all this heat to simply rise. You will be amazed at how heavy cold air can be.
For certain!

Those corner rooms furthest away are usually the most stubborn. Some where on this forum is a post from a member that used a floor grate and a piece of round duct directly to about a foot off the basement floor to try and cut down on drafty cold air movement to their cellar way. Not a bad idea for an unfinished un-ducted basement.

Some find that ceiling fans speed or direction can block the normal flow of air to and from a stove.

My first house was a split level and the wood stove was on the end wall of the lower level. The cold air would rush down the steps and force the heat out of half the 21 x 14' room where the steps were. You didn't want to sit within 6' of that stair well!

 
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Post by Kujones79 » Sat. Jan. 19, 2019 1:01 am

Well I ran up to Lehigh Anthractie today and picked up a ton of bagged nut coal. Stopped and picked up my new stove later in the afternoon. Was a bit of a challenge getting it started but I think I’m good for the night. How long does it normally take for the stove to heat up to full BTU discharge status ??

Here’s one thing that puzzled me. We installed the stove and started a fire. The stove starting pushing smoke from everywhere like there was a reverse draft. We removed the insulation that was around the damper where the liner goes up the chimney and the smoke corrected itself. Very strange !

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Sat. Jan. 19, 2019 1:08 am

Crack a window open...
With practice you can have the heat cranking in 45 minutes...
From the match strike...

 
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Post by 11ultra103 » Sat. Nov. 23, 2019 12:52 am

Kujones79 wrote:
Tue. Jan. 15, 2019 8:34 pm
I’m in Quakertown along 309 and 663
Just found your post and I wanted to see where you found coal. I recently purchased a 50-93 from the center valley area and I'm thinking about going up to tamaqua to get coal. Hows the stove treating you?

 
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Post by Kujones79 » Sat. Nov. 23, 2019 7:04 am

Thanks for reaching out. Stove is good. I keep it in my uninsulated basement. I have some piping I made to take some of the hot air off the blower and into receivers I cut in the floor. Overall it keeps the rooms upstairs about 70 degrees and i have it set at 10 on the dial. I get my coal from Lehigh Anthracite. Right now it’s $170 a ton I believe. Easy to get. Just head to their quarry, sign it, pay, get loaded, and off you go.


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