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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Sep. 09, 2018 7:09 am

JTM527 wrote:
Sat. Sep. 08, 2018 11:25 pm
Rob, how long can the 82 go between feedings in the depth of winter?

Thanks to everyone for the info!
12-15 hours, depending how hard you are running it.


 
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Post by Lightning » Sun. Sep. 09, 2018 11:29 am

Firstly, I've never owned or used a Hitzer product. But they should be able to keep up with my handicapped Clayton which I normally run 24 hours between tendings when average outside temp during that 24 hours is 25 degrees or higher. Between 10-25 degrees mean OAT I'll get 18 hours, anything under 10 degrees mean OAT I'll do a tending every 12 hours. Heating 2400 square ft of not very tight house in western NY. There are usually 15-24 days during the 180 that I run it where I do two tendings inside 24 hours. There is some learning curve involved with getting it right, but don't let that scare you.

I'm sure the other members will back me up when I tell you you don't want a stove like mine lol.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Sep. 09, 2018 1:16 pm

J, 12 to 15 hrs is tried & true on the 82. No muss, no fuss! KISS my friend.

 
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Post by JTM527 » Sun. Sep. 09, 2018 6:25 pm

If I rip out the oil boiler, can the coal boiler use the same chimney? Currently the oil boiler vents out of the old brick chimney original to the house.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Sep. 09, 2018 6:43 pm

Don't see a problem there--

 
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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Sep. 09, 2018 7:07 pm

Lightning wrote:
Sun. Sep. 09, 2018 11:29 am
Firstly, I've never owned or used a Hitzer product. But they should be able to keep up with my handicapped Clayton which I normally run 24 hours between tendings when average outside temp during that 24 hours is 25 degrees or higher. Between 10-25 degrees mean OAT I'll get 18 hours, anything under 10 degrees mean OAT I'll do a tending every 12 hours. Heating 2400 square ft of not very tight house in western NY. There are usually 15-24 days during the 180 that I run it where I do two tendings inside 24 hours. There is some learning curve involved with getting it right, but don't let that scare you.

I'm sure the other members will back me up when I tell you you don't want a stove like mine lol.
Burn time depends on the heat you want to get out of it. If you want to tend a Hitzer 82 once per day, you can - just don't expect the same heat out of it.

 
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Post by lsayre » Sun. Sep. 09, 2018 8:15 pm

Rob R. wrote:
Sun. Sep. 09, 2018 7:07 pm
Burn time depends on the heat you want to get out of it. If you want to tend a Hitzer 82 once per day, you can - just don't expect the same heat out of it.
This good advice goes hand in hand with my mantra that all of the heat is in the coal. Burn less coal, get less heat. Burn more coal, get more heat. Any stove has the "potential" to burn more coal between tendings, or the "potential" to go longer between tendings. But it can't do both at the same time. If you feel that you need to attempt to do both, your best bet is to get the larger capacity stove and then throttle it down for longer burns (presuming that it can be throttled down sufficiently enough and still maintain a fire).


 
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Post by CorrosionMan » Thu. Oct. 11, 2018 7:26 pm

82FA all the way here. For you wimpy 100lb a day burners.

Last winter when it was below 3F for about a week, I averaged >9 bags a day. I think that works out to >187,500 Btu/h. It was freaking screaming HAWT.... Warped the interior a bit... The grates didn't!.

The 82FA is rated at 115,000 btu/h. I believe that is an accurate rating (5.8 bags a day?)

The 82FA is a monster when needed.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Thu. Oct. 11, 2018 7:31 pm

You need to stop the wind from blowing through your house...before you turn that 82FA in a puddle of melted iron.

 
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Post by lsayre » Thu. Oct. 11, 2018 7:39 pm

Wow! Did it glow?

 
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Post by CorrosionMan » Thu. Oct. 11, 2018 7:58 pm

I have a big house with a full uninsulated basement. Did not have good ducting so the basement was about 10F warmer than the main level. AND I like it no colder than 76 in the main level.

The 82FA was cranking, it had a low rumble noise. My Amish supplier was impressed when he came over and saw it, said he never seen one put out that much heat for as long as I ran it that way.

Ducting has been fixed/modified/installed for this winter.

 
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Post by Lightning » Thu. Oct. 11, 2018 8:20 pm

Unfortunately over firing a stove that hard forces the thermal efficiency way down. Which means a substantial amount of heat was leaving out the chimney. I'm happy you tweaked your duct work, it will pay huge with coal saved.

 
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Post by mntbugy » Thu. Oct. 11, 2018 9:13 pm

[quote=CorrosionMan post_id=678553 time=15393023 I like it no colder than 76 in the main level.
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You and me both.
When I come inside the house I want to warm up not defrost.

 
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Post by ASea » Fri. Oct. 12, 2018 7:38 am

Seems to me a coal fired boiler which can be had used for a reasonable price and placed in service with the oil fired unit as a backup would be my first choice.Talk to Pacowy on this forum he usually has a few for sale. Or a large antique stove like a Baseburner with an 18" fire pot would be the way to go, also period correct. Tough to heat 3000sqft with one central stove.

 
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Post by Scottaw » Fri. Oct. 12, 2018 8:01 pm

50-93 burner here. Going into my 5th year I think. I use it as main heat for a 2400sf farmhouse that’s been somewhat insulated and sealed up. I don’t run it very hard until it’s single digits and lower.

Look at the design of your house and where the stove will sit. It will heat the hell out of the room it’s in, and try to rise through open doors and stairwells. I have supplemental heat in the rooms that were added on. Adding returns can make a huge differentce.

Can’t speak to the 82, but the hopper feed on the 50-93 is super easy to tend and takes me 5 minutes to dump ashes, shake, and refill. I use 5 gallon buckets and keep 60 filled, right outside the door where the stove sits. Highly recommended stove. It’s not pretty, but it’s not unattractive, mines in the basement so I don’t care.


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