sears 591.841180 stove

 
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Post by lamina1982 » Wed. Aug. 15, 2018 10:34 pm

Anyone have any info on these stoves? Doesnt seem to be any readily found info online. Just got one from my dad and i want to put it in my shop to replace a barrel stove. Seems pretty good condition but one of fire bricks is cracked in 2(they are formed to inside shape of stove)
For coal do u have to seal up all the brick seems inside with stove cement?
What type coal and operating instructions would be nice.
Ive been burning coal for 4 yrs in house but with a 90 keystoker so no real handfired experience.
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Post by lsayre » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 6:33 am

Look up "Warm Morning" coal stoves, and see if your Sears stove resembles one of theirs.

https://www.hearth.com/talk/wiki/locke-stove-comp ... m-morning/

 
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Post by lamina1982 » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 8:05 am

Looks just like one of the coal radient heaters from that link

 
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Post by warminmn » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 8:12 am

Sears had those weird model numbers on a lot of different things they sold. Unsure what they all mean. The 1st 3 numbers 591 could easily be the important numbers. That is how it is with their electronic items from back in the day.

 
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Post by lsayre » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 8:28 am

It will most likely be one of these Warm Morning model numbers:

24
W24
120
320
400
414
414A
420A
422
428
460
500
520
521
522
523
524
528
616
617
618
628
700B
700C
701
701A
701B
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Post by lsayre » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 8:38 am


 
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Post by lamina1982 » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 9:31 am

Heres some pics. Stove is 34" tall and about 14" square. Seems would be a 5" flue pipe?
Also seems the only way you could shake the grate would be to open the ash door.
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Is this brick fixable? If say i put some stove cement between and smooshed back together? Doesnt look like the warm morning bricks in above link
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Thanks for your help guys


 
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Post by McGiever » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 9:49 am

Too bad all WM don't all use just one brick shape and size.
Some bricks cost more to replace than what a used stove would be worth to purchase.
Corner flue type bricks are very costly.

Looks to be a 414 model. Holds 40lbs of coal.
I have one that has never been fired.

That building in pic looks like it would be hard to hold the heat.

If you don't want to replace then go ahead and patch w/ fire cement.
The stuff in a caulk tube holds very well...just remember not to get carried away w/ cement...bricks always need to have room to move when they grow or expand from high heat.
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Post by lamina1982 » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 9:56 am

Ya its just a big metal shop, not looking to heat comstantly, probably just on weekemds and just enough i wont freeze to death when working out there in winter. Just bought the place, half the shop is insulated but lotsa single pane windows etc so dont exwpect it to be super hot but figured might be better than the barrel stove.
Are these any good for burning wood too or just coal?

 
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Post by McGiever » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 10:01 am

Can burn wood, but tending times will be very frequent w/ the small charge size of the 414.

Can burn Bit. coal very well if you can get it there locally.

 
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Post by CoalJockey » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 10:34 am

That is most definitely a Warm Morning clone that you have there.

 
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Post by lsayre » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 11:36 am

These might help.
WM PDF B&W Warm Morning.pdf
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WarmMorningManual.pdf
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Post by lamina1982 » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 11:50 am

Ya i dont think ive ever seen bit locally, just anthracite

 
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Post by lamina1982 » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 11:52 am

Thanks for pdfs

 
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Post by lsayre » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 12:23 pm

lamina1982 wrote:
Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 11:52 am
Thanks for pdfs
I merely stole them from forum member Smokeyja. He has a 414.

I've seen a few pictures of this type of stove, but this is the first one I've seen with pedestal feet. Most look like they just sit flat on the ground. The feet add a nice touch.


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