Hopper feed for a harman ?

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Post by Spacecadet » Sat. Aug. 11, 2018 12:51 pm

This past winter I jumped in feet first and bought a new Harmon tlc2000. This thing heats my house fantastic and overall I am very pleased with it. My issue is with my job. After hours I do emergency service and when the phone rings I have to go. A couple times in the middle of roaring it up and refilling I had to fly. I have been contemplating buying a new hopper stove. I was looking into a hitzer 30-95 or a keystoker HFH 70/90. I really like the keystoker. I'm having a hard time justifying spending more cash for another new stove when I already have a new one. I know I can recoup some money by selling the harman. I had conversation with my buddy the other day on how great the tic stove is because it has a feed hole in the top of the stove which is also for the grille insert. Anyway. We spoke about making a hopper shute for it. Has anybody done this?

 
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Post by Spacecadet » Sat. Aug. 11, 2018 1:38 pm

If anybody has any pics you could share that would be great. A few close up Pics of the front of your stove showing the hopper feeder height above the fire brick and maybe a pic of the top where the hopper sits.

 
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Post by StokerDon » Sun. Aug. 12, 2018 9:34 am

Spacecadet wrote:
Sat. Aug. 11, 2018 12:51 pm
We spoke about making a hopper shute for it. Has anybody done this?
Keep in mind that you can't just "make" a hopper for a hand fired stove. It is in contact with the burning coal so in needs to be cast iron or some other material that can withstand the heat.

Member "Pauliewog" has some threads about casting stove parts.
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Post by oliver power » Tue. Aug. 14, 2018 9:48 am

I don't know anything about the keystoker HFH 70/90. When it comes to the HITZER 30-95, and 50-93, I can say it takes 2 or 3 minutes to tend. The 50-93 has a much better capacity than the 30-95. At average rated fires, and everything being the same, the 50-93 will stretch out an additional 6 hours if needed. I can't say enough good about the Hitzer 30-95, or the 50-93. Both very good stoves. If I had to choose one over the other, it'd be the 50-93 for the following reasons. The 50-93 has the quieter fan, and capable of producing what feels like, double the heat, using the same amount of coal at tending time. The 50-93 also has straight vertical fire box. The 30-95 has a slanted fire box in the back. If pushed hard, it will ash up, and produce clinkers. I'm talking only if pushed hard. Even then, it's not a big deal. Both stoves are very user friendly


 
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Post by Spacecadet » Tue. Aug. 14, 2018 11:39 pm

Thanks Don, I've been looking around at pics of the designs of different hand feed auto hoppers. Half are cast iron and the rest are plate steel. And all the designs appear to be simply and generally speaking " the same". I was thinking that if i tried it I would use 7/16 plate. Haven't yet decided if I shall try or not. This stove is in my house and Failure is not an option. IF it were inside my garage i wouldn't hesitate to do it.

 
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Post by Spacecadet » Wed. Aug. 15, 2018 12:00 am

Thanks oliver power. The info on the hitzer stoves it is definitely very helpful. My 'pad' for the stove may not fit the 50-93. As its overall width is about 6" wider than the 30-95. All the hopper hand feeds vent the chimney out the rear of the stove. My pad and the hole in the roof for the chimney was constructed for a top vent woodstove, The top vent harman fits perfectly there. To install a rear vent unit I have to move the stove closer to the edge of the platform and farther away from the back wall. The dimensions of the 30-95 and the keystoker are close. both stoves will fit the pad in my house even moving them closer to the edge. Probably going to take a ride to a dealer and look into both stoves. Don't really want to spend more$$$$ and maybe he'll take my stove on trade its only got 3 months use on it. If not Ill post it up for sale.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Aug. 15, 2018 5:36 am

Keep in mind this level of modification will void the UL listing on your stove, and it may not operate the way you expect. My $0.02 is that you should wait for a good deal on a Hitzer.

 
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Post by oliver power » Wed. Aug. 15, 2018 1:28 pm

You can always look at the D.S. Circulator models. They are top feed, with removable hopper. If your place is tight, they do a nice job of naturally circulating the heat. Feels like hot water heat. Not the best shop stove, where overhead doors are being opened. The D.S. performance won't come anywhere near Hitzer performance. Not even close. Yet, the D.S. is still a nice stove. They are two different animals...... :lol:

In the D.S. Circulator models, I'd be looking at the 1500 model. Seams to be the best all around size. !600 is too big as far as feeding it goes. The 1400 may run a little short in the dead of winter.

Another stove you might want to look at is the HITZER 254. There's one on e-bay right now. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hitzer-Wood-Coal-Burning ... m570.l1313


 
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Post by Spacecadet » Fri. Aug. 17, 2018 2:00 am

thanks oliver power. the hitzer 254 isn't a hopper feed stove, i like the ds circulator stove however they are very physically large stoves. I would have to enlarge my stove stand to accommodate it

 
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Post by Spacecadet » Mon. Aug. 27, 2018 2:49 am

I had a deal going last weekend for a 30-95 but another buyer/member beat me to the door. It worked out for me though, this weekend i picked up a 50-93. I was a little worried that the 50-93 would be too large for my hearth platform - but its not. I bet the 30-95 probably would have looked a little small. Anyway this thing should have no problem keeping my 1200 sqft house nice and warm this winter. I posted the harman tlc2000 in the classified section - if anyone is interested hit me up and make an offer

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Post by CapeCoaler » Mon. Aug. 27, 2018 10:30 pm

very nice...

 
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Post by Spacecadet » Sat. Sep. 08, 2018 5:13 pm

Well I sold the harman. So now to the quick easy tending of the hitzer. I ended up picking up a 30-95 also - good deal that I couldn't pass up. Im not going to use the 50-95 as it barely fits my stove base. May sell it -may keep it for the garage for next year not sure at this point yet.

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