Joined the coal heat club
- Spacecadet
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- Posts: 278
- Joined: Sat. Feb. 10, 2018 9:36 pm
- Location: New Paltz NY
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 30-95, Hitzer 30/95
- Coal Size/Type: nut
- Other Heating: US stove 6041 pellet
Well it is official I went and picked up a new Harman TLC2000. Got the stove all installed this weekend. Between reading pages here and watching lots of youtube videos I'm confident I can do this.
I bought 5 bags of nut coal from tractor supply which got me going. I was expecting a fairly uniform bag of coal -it had a mix of everything from dusty rice chips to baseball size chunks. This weekend ill take a ride and get a ton from Cornwall Coal.
I bought 5 bags of nut coal from tractor supply which got me going. I was expecting a fairly uniform bag of coal -it had a mix of everything from dusty rice chips to baseball size chunks. This weekend ill take a ride and get a ton from Cornwall Coal.
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- nepacoal
- Member
- Posts: 1701
- Joined: Wed. Nov. 21, 2012 7:49 am
- Location: Coal Country
- Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KAA-4 / "Kelly" and an EFM 520 at my in-laws
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF-260 - retired
- Coal Size/Type: Buck
Congrats and welcome to the forum. Be sure to fill the stove all the way up to the top of the fire bricks each time you tend it. Coal likes a deep bed to burn properly.
- michaelanthony
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- Posts: 4550
- Joined: Sat. Nov. 22, 2008 10:42 pm
- Location: millinocket,me.
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box stove
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Gold Marc Independence
- Baseburners & Antiques: Home Sparkle 12
- Coal Size/Type: 'nut
- Other Heating: Fujitsu mini split, FHA oil furnace
Good news Spacecadet! Keep in mind with a properly running coal stove your exhaust may not get hot enough to turn on the "Magic Heat" reclaimer you have on your stack. There is an auto setting and a continuous setting. I speak from experience, when I was new to coal I tried one and thought it was broken. They can cause creosote on a wood stove because it cools the stack...and my coal stove needed to be over fired in order to keep it running. just my 2 cents, best of luck
- hotblast1357
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- Posts: 5661
- Joined: Mon. Mar. 10, 2014 10:06 pm
- Location: Peasleeville NY
- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
- Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
- Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace
The heat reclaimers work well when running the stove on the higher end, north of 400 degrees, but if the stove is efficient enough to still extract that much heat out before the flue it just won’t come on. But I’d be suprised to find a standard stove that when running at 400-650 degrees with a pipe temp less than 200.
- michaelanthony
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- Posts: 4550
- Joined: Sat. Nov. 22, 2008 10:42 pm
- Location: millinocket,me.
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box stove
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Gold Marc Independence
- Baseburners & Antiques: Home Sparkle 12
- Coal Size/Type: 'nut
- Other Heating: Fujitsu mini split, FHA oil furnace
My Vigilant 2310 will run 450 - 550 and the pipe 2 feet above the stove is 160. Stove 600 - 750 and the flue pipe will see 200 - 250. When my Vigilant was in my living room the flue pipe was horizontal for 2 feet coming out of the stove and the temps were a little lower.hotblast1357 wrote: ↑Tue. Feb. 20, 2018 10:37 amThe heat reclaimers work well when running the stove on the higher end, north of 400 degrees, but if the stove is efficient enough to still extract that much heat out before the flue it just won’t come on. But I’d be suprised to find a standard stove that when running at 400-650 degrees with a pipe temp less than 200.
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- Posts: 8601
- Joined: Sat. May. 24, 2008 4:26 pm
- Location: Chester, NY
- Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Invader 2
- Baseburners & Antiques: Wings Best, Glenwood #8(x2) Herald 116x
- Coal Size/Type: Rice,
- Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22
Welcome to the local coal burners. There are not many of us. Cornwall is fine but avoid the Bulville coal dealer (if he is still in business) ... the worst of the worst.This weekend ill take a ride and get a ton from Cornwall Coal.
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- Posts: 1827
- Joined: Thu. Sep. 28, 2017 10:57 am
- Location: Coal Township Pa
- Stoker Coal Boiler: K2- Keystoker
- Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Stoker Stove
- Coal Size/Type: Rice
That's a very nice stove. I looked up the spec cuz I never heard of that model. Turns out you can burn wood in it as well ,and cook inside or on top of the stove, and also use it like an open fireplace with the optional fireplace screen, similar to my Harman TL-300 wood stove which I really like. ID check with your Harman dealer to see if they recommend that Magic heat or not. Its definitely no,on the wood stove. The website claims you can get a 60 hour burn with coal in that TLC, which is amazing.Spacecadet wrote: ↑Tue. Feb. 20, 2018 3:14 amWell it is official I went and picked up a new Harman TLC2000.
- Spacecadet
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- Posts: 278
- Joined: Sat. Feb. 10, 2018 9:36 pm
- Location: New Paltz NY
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 30-95, Hitzer 30/95
- Coal Size/Type: nut
- Other Heating: US stove 6041 pellet
Thanks its actually a old new unit - The guy I bought it from bought it new in 2005 and never used it. Bought it for his old house, moved and it sat in his new house's garage. I'm thinking about getting the cooking grill insert for it -_ it would be cool to bbq inside during the winter.
I like Cornwall Coal. The guy there took the time in between customers and explained alot to me.
Magic heat kicks on at 190 and off at 150, With air slide at @ 35% it kicks on and off every 10-20 min. At 20% it doesn't come on at all - pipe is @ 150 by the gauge. I figure when it really cold out and the slide open more it may run more often. If it doesn't work well enough or causes draft issues, ill remove it. Easy enough... With the old wood stove I would get on the roof and run the brush through it once a month. I'd pull down the inside pipes and clean out the magic heat.
I like Cornwall Coal. The guy there took the time in between customers and explained alot to me.
Magic heat kicks on at 190 and off at 150, With air slide at @ 35% it kicks on and off every 10-20 min. At 20% it doesn't come on at all - pipe is @ 150 by the gauge. I figure when it really cold out and the slide open more it may run more often. If it doesn't work well enough or causes draft issues, ill remove it. Easy enough... With the old wood stove I would get on the roof and run the brush through it once a month. I'd pull down the inside pipes and clean out the magic heat.
- freetown fred
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- Posts: 30302
- Joined: Thu. Dec. 31, 2009 12:33 pm
- Location: Freetown,NY 13803
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
- Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut
By God, I think you've got it S. You'll do well! Have a good heating season & remember--the only stupid questions are the one's we don't ask! Let us know how that Cornwall coal looks.
- windyhill4.2
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- Posts: 6072
- Joined: Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 2:17 pm
- Location: Jonestown,Pa.17038
- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
- Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
For those using a Magic Heat re-claimer & burning wood,the manufacturer advises that you burn some paper or cardboard several times each week to help burn off any creosote or deposits that the scraper plate has left behind.If burning low & slow fire... creosote WILL collect on these tubes & you may not be able to move the scraper plate at all. When i had my Schrader wood stove with the Magic Heat.i had the scraper plate stick many times. A few pieces of crumpled paper thrown into the fire took care of the issue. The burning paper will float up into the tube area & set the creosote on fire,the tubes get quite red,but it will be ok if you have the fan running.5 yrs of using my Schrader stove & Magic Heat combination & i never had to clean my chimney. The Magic Heat is the stack cool down spot & also creosote collector.
- hotblast1357
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- Posts: 5661
- Joined: Mon. Mar. 10, 2014 10:06 pm
- Location: Peasleeville NY
- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
- Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
- Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace
Also it helps to leave the scraper in the out position, to be able to push it in when starting the cleaning, and so that the knob doesn’t melt off from the high heat from wood burning.
- windyhill4.2
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- Posts: 6072
- Joined: Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 2:17 pm
- Location: Jonestown,Pa.17038
- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
- Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
I forgot that important part,i had to replace the knob once because it had been too hot too many times from being too close to too much heat.hotblast1357 wrote: ↑Wed. Feb. 21, 2018 10:34 amAlso it helps to leave the scraper in the out position, to be able to push it in when starting the cleaning, and so that the knob doesn’t melt off from the high heat from wood burning.
- michaelanthony
- Member
- Posts: 4550
- Joined: Sat. Nov. 22, 2008 10:42 pm
- Location: millinocket,me.
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box stove
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Gold Marc Independence
- Baseburners & Antiques: Home Sparkle 12
- Coal Size/Type: 'nut
- Other Heating: Fujitsu mini split, FHA oil furnace
Hahaha! I forgot how many times I walked into the f'...damn handle!windyhill4.2 wrote: ↑Wed. Feb. 21, 2018 11:47 amI forgot that important part,i had to replace the knob once because it had been too hot too many times from being too close to too much heat.