Does anyone have the HITZER 254?

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Post By: oliver power » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 10:15 pm

Wondering if the back wall of firebox is slanted like the 30-95 .

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Post By: oliver power » Fri. Feb. 09, 2018 7:41 pm

oliver power wrote:
Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 10:15 pm
Wondering if the back wall of firebox is slanted like the 30-95 .
Champion stoves has gotten back to me. Yes, the back wall of the 254 firebox is slanted just like the 30-95.

So I see no advantage of buying a 254, other than NOT seeing the hopper through the front load door, which is not a big deal.

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Post By: Fire375 » Fri. Feb. 16, 2018 3:51 pm

The 254 is not slanted. It actually has 2 grates in it and they are linked together just like the 50-93. The 30-95 has just one grate in it and has the slant.

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Post By: oliver power » Fri. Feb. 16, 2018 8:13 pm

Fire375 wrote:
Fri. Feb. 16, 2018 3:51 pm
The 254 is not slanted. It actually has 2 grates in it and they are linked together just like the 50-93. The 30-95 has just one grate in it and has the slant.
Fire375, Are you sure you're not thinking of the 354??? The 354 would be more like the 50-93.

The 254 would be more of the 30-95 size. However, the 254 does not have a hopper. So no real need for slanted back wall. That's why I asked. I didn't know. Dealer said 254 was slanted just like the 30-95.

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Post By: coalder » Fri. Feb. 16, 2018 8:47 pm

Scott, for whatever it's worth the 254 also has a slightly larger firebox than the 30-95. It's 13 inches deep vs 12 on the 30-95. At least that's what the ad said the last I looked.
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Post By: oliver power » Fri. Feb. 16, 2018 9:27 pm

coalder wrote:
Fri. Feb. 16, 2018 8:47 pm
Scott, for whatever it's worth the 254 also has a slightly larger firebox than the 30-95. It's 13 inches deep vs 12 on the 30-95. At least that's what the ad said the last I looked.
Jim
Thanks Jim, That answers why the 254 is rated to heat more square footage than the 30-95. It's the reason I questioned the slanted firebox to begin with. I was thinking it must have a bigger firebox. Turns out it does......... :) Still, I'd like to find out for fact whether or not the back wall of firebox is slanted like the 30-95. I'll send Dean an e-mail, then reply to this post.

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Post By: Fire375 » Mon. Feb. 19, 2018 7:30 am

That is the reason it is rated higher, it has two grates instead of the one like the 30-95.
The 254 is the little brother to the 354. Built the same only smaller.
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Post By: oliver power » Mon. Feb. 19, 2018 8:55 am

I Thank You Fire375...

That looks like a nice little stove. I see it's brand new. Are you a dealer? Are you able to show / explain the internal damper set up? Other than no hopper, I can see the 254 being a step above the 30-95, which is a GREAT little stove. No complaints about the 30-95 performance. However, the 254, with it's dual grates (non turbo effect), and straight fire box side walls would not create clinkers like the 30-95 when run hard. The way the air / fuel mixture (Ball of Fire) comes off the 30-95's single grate, reminds me of a turbo torch. And when running hard, it will fuse ash together, creating clinkers.

For anyone reading this, when I talk about the 30-95 running hard, I'm talking about letting the little stove push itself beyond it's normal rated operating capacity. I don't think the 30-95 knows it's a small stove, and would push itself to self destruct.

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Post By: oliver power » Mon. Feb. 19, 2018 9:19 am

Fire375 wrote:
Mon. Feb. 19, 2018 7:30 am
That is the reason it is rated higher, it has two grates instead of the one like the 30-95.
The 254 is the little brother to the 354. Built the same only smaller.
No Doubt, Champion stoves fed (e-mailed) me wrong information......

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Post By: Fire375 » Tue. Feb. 20, 2018 1:29 pm

oliver power wrote:
Mon. Feb. 19, 2018 8:55 am
I Thank You Fire375...

That looks like a nice little stove. I see it's brand new. Are you a dealer? Are you able to show / explain the internal damper set up? Other than no hopper, I can see the 254 being a step above the 30-95, which is a GREAT little stove. No complaints about the 30-95 performance. However, the 254, with it's dual grates (non turbo effect), and straight fire box side walls would not create clinkers like the 30-95 when run hard. The way the air / fuel mixture (Ball of Fire) comes off the 30-95's single grate, reminds me of a turbo torch. And when running hard, it will fuse ash together, creating clinkers.

For anyone reading this, when I talk about the 30-95 running hard, I'm talking about letting the little stove push itself beyond it's normal rated operating capacity. I don't think the 30-95 knows it's a small stove, and would push itself to self destruct.
Oliver, yes I do sell the Hitzer brand. In my honest opinion the 254 is a very underrated stove. It is a heating machine for its size. Sure it doesnt have a hopper but if you bank the coal up to the top of the firebrick in the back the tending time is near that of the 30-95 that has the hopper. The hopper does make it easier to just dump the coal in but me personally i dont mind shoveling it in the front door. The 254 is a very nice coal stove and I believe deserves more credit.

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Post By: Lightning » Wed. Feb. 21, 2018 9:25 am

Fire375 wrote:
Tue. Feb. 20, 2018 1:29 pm
The 254 is a very nice coal stove and I believe deserves more credit.
Nice, could we see some more pics of it? How many pounds will it hold fully loaded?

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Post By: nickdearing88 » Wed. Feb. 21, 2018 11:34 am

My coal dealer is also a Hitzer dealer. I check out the various models in his shop each time I pickup coal. I love the looks of them and would kill for a nice window view of my fire over my solid cast furnace door. He said he fires a different model each year in his shop to experience all the model's unique attributes. Last year was a 55UL stove and this year is a 354.

My dealer always speaks highly of the 254 and 354 models, especially if you plan to burn wood also.

Can you get 12-16 hour burns with a full load in the 254, at moderate heat output?

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Post By: freetown fred » Wed. Feb. 21, 2018 12:05 pm

N, don't know much about either except HITZER makes one of the best. With my 50-93 on idle, hell, I've burnt 4 straight days & been able to re-coup the fire.

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Post By: coalfan » Wed. Feb. 21, 2018 5:15 pm

i had the 354 for ten yrs burnt good hard wood/bit and ant, in it in a ranch home full basement and never had an issue with at all !!!! dam good stove !! and she threw the heat .

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Post By: oliver power » Thu. Feb. 22, 2018 4:45 pm

Dean Had gotten back to me. He described the firebox. A little late; as Fire375 already answered the firebox question. However, Dean did say the internal damper of the 254 restricts exhaust flow (only on fan model). The non-fan model; the knob at upper front center is a dummy knob.

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