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Post by New User » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 8:16 pm

I have a used Surdiac 713 I bought from a friend. He had a 6" pipe with a Baro damper into a flue in a one story ranch. He said it would run for 14 hrs! I have it in my lower level of a split entry home, 6" pipe into the flue completely up through the fireplace. I just added a baro damper on it because I can't get a long burn time with it. I'm using pea anthracite and it holds about 25 lbs, I think. I have to poke at this every 6 hours! When I first got it started, it went 9.5 hrs after I put the baro on! yay! I slept! With or without the baro, after 1.5 days, it chokes out. I managed to get it going this morning again with about a small fist of embers and I babied it all day. I'm trying not to touch it to see how long it'll go. It's been about 5 hours and it looks good. I don't open the door unless I have to do poking. Usually there is a good amount of ash built on the sides after about 5-6 hours. I have the baro set so it doesn't really open because it seemed like when it opened and drafted, it wasn't letting the draft come from below to keep the coal ignited so I closed it. Does that make sense? I replaced all the seal on the doors, too. I just want to sleep through the night! This is like having a newborn!


 
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Post by cabinover » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 8:49 pm

Welcome to the forum. The first thing I'd do is find a manometer for your draft. It's really the only way to figure out just how much draft you have going for ya and where you should adjust that baro. Guessing is just that. As for it choking out it sounds like you haven't mastered the shakedown routine for that stove. I can't help you with that but there are others here that will be along shortly. Good luck!!

 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 8:51 pm

Welcome.

These stoves are quite sensitive to ash buildup in the firebox. Premium coal (low ash) helps, as does getting through draft properly adjusted and moderating the output of the stove. You might not be able to keep the house 72 with the stove alone, and get the burn times you want.

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 9:02 pm

Are you filling the stove all the way up to the top of the firebrick?? A pic of your fire would help.

 
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Post by McGiever » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 9:58 pm

Pea coal has excessive ash due to reduced air spaces, so remove the ash and all will be good.

As you might of figured out by now, sometimes it is best to "kill" fire, as to "baby" it is too time consuming.

Have you seen the thread by our pro member "Lightning" going now on "riddling"? It will get you much wanted/needed sleep. :)

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Post by warminmn » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 10:01 pm

Is this a model 713 or 715? You have 715 in profile and 713 in your post.

Are you using the hopper? Yes, pictures would help

 
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Post by New User » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 10:33 pm

I think it's a Gotha 713. It definitely gets warm in here, it's 86 degrees! It just doesn't burn long. Yes, I use the hopper and fill it to the top, I usually top it off during the day so it doesn't burn out.


 
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Post by New User » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 10:36 pm

If the draft wasn't set right, would it even stay going a few hours? I get 5-7 hours out of it.

 
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Post by franco b » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 11:47 pm

Put the hopper to the higher position to get more coal into the fire pot.

Set the thermostat to a lower setting. If it is 80 in the room it could do with less heat.

That stove should hold more like 50 pounds of coal with the hopper full.

Do a thorough job of clearing ash.

 
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Post by New User » Thu. Jan. 18, 2018 4:49 am

.....and this is at 4:30 am! 6 hours later from having a nice full burn. I didn't know the hopper could be adjusted! OMG, if this fixes it, I will be ecstatic! Oh, I'm a girl, by the way! I'm pretty mechanical, though! Does it look too low?
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Post by New User » Thu. Jan. 18, 2018 5:00 am

It's set at the highest point.

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Post by Rob R. » Thu. Jan. 18, 2018 5:21 am

86 degrees....it seems like the stove is running at a very high output level. Are you able to reduce the air and get the stove down to a lower temperature?

 
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Post by New User » Thu. Jan. 18, 2018 5:59 am

Up until now, prior to the baro, I have not, it would go out at 3 or lower. I just turned it down to just under 3 and it's still trying to restart just fine. It's the longevity that's the issue.

 
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Post by New User » Thu. Jan. 18, 2018 6:01 am

I watch the thermometer and it stays with in the optimal range of 300-500 degrees


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