Dhw tempering with 50-93

 
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Post by coalmaster » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 5:51 pm

freetown fred wrote:
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When I had all my daughters (3) & 2 boys # me--my elec. bill (elec. HW heater & lights + elec. pasture fence was real minimal. I'm thinkin around $25.00 a month. $300.00 a year. Less then a dollar per day. Ya never want to have a bunch of women complain about a lack of hot water!!
must be goin back a few years fred. My power sapping family likes to enjoy electricity. My bill is usually 150-170 per month. If it was 300 A year I would have bothered starting this project. Everyone took a nice long shower last night and currently the take is back up to 90. Not running the stove any harder than normal

 
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 6:02 pm

Not bad at all C. If I even suggested the time limits, etc. to my grandkids, I'm sure I'd be lookin at a mutiny!!! LOL

 
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Post by McGiever » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 6:19 pm

Styrofoam is typically covered by/behind drywall or some other fire resistant material in a home due to its flammability and deadly poisonous gases that are emitted if it caught fire. Fire and Styrofoam cannot be compatible. :hangover: :no1:

 
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Post by coalmaster » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 6:31 pm

its been about 24 hours since showers started last night here is an update
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110 gallons of 91*. This setup works but it's limited. Here is the temporary insulation I'm using
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I have two layers of ceramic tiles. they were convenient , I had them stacked behind the stove, some day I'll get around to laying them where the stove sits. The fiberglass is outside the tile because I tried it against the coil and I didn't think it was working as good


 
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Post by coalmaster » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 6:39 pm

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Shouldn't the hot water tank be mounted above the inlet/outlet piping of the stoves hot water heat exchanger tubes?
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it is by about a foot

 
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 7:14 pm

C, are those tiles between the stove body & coils? Hopin not. Still thinkin if ya flop those coils horizontal you'd notice a difference.

 
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Post by coalmaster » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 7:21 pm

No the coil is against the stove then the tile. It would take quite a bit of rework to change this coil. It's a reverse return so turning it doesn't fix the issue with water leaving before it really gets heated. I'll have to make a new one that runs in series like Oliver power suggested

 
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 8:42 pm

No guarantees C, but I think it would be worth the effort.


 
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Post by lsayre » Sat. Jan. 20, 2018 3:44 am

Does this stove allow for the potential of an internal DHW coil (or coils)?

 
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Post by oliver power » Sat. Jan. 20, 2018 7:35 am

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It really doesn't matter what I started with, Fred. Those coils are designed to be installed in any wood or coal stove that they'll fit into for the benefit of very cheap hot water. ;) As long as the installer has the ingenuity to do it. That's why we have this coal board. So that people can gain the knowledge and confidence to take on projects like this.

You can only cut the holes once, so measure twice, sleep on it and then measure again.
Well Lightning, I too am impressed with what you've done with the Clayton. However, I have to agree with Fred. The 50-93 is PERFECT just the way it is. Don't mess with it...... Hardly ANY room for fastening to side walls. That being said; there is one place a coil could be fastened. That is the front of the hopper, where the heat is also concentrated. The more I think about it, that might take a PERFECT stove, and make it MORE PERFECT. :lol:

Only thing is; One couldn't remove the hopper in the newer 50-93's.

 
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Post by coalmaster » Wed. Feb. 14, 2018 9:38 pm

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i'm using the shutoff valve to control the flow. I have been seeing 140 leaving the coil and with a pretty steep drop in effiency I'm seeing 112 usually out to the electric water heater. Made a shroud out of steel coil. Too bad I didn't have any in black.
Yeah, I'm using more coal. But at the same time windows are open. Amazing how well this hitzer heats

 
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Post by freetown fred » Wed. Feb. 14, 2018 9:43 pm

Sounds good C. American ingenuity!! :)

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