Dust and fines into something useful?

User avatar
turbine
Member
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun. Jan. 16, 2011 9:14 am
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hand fed coal stove
Coal Size/Type: nut , stove
Other Heating: heat pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC 2000
Location: Prince George, Va.

Post By: turbine » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 9:07 pm

Does anyone have an idea how to make use of left over fines and dust?
I hate to waste any of this wonderful stuff. :D

Visit Hitzer Stoves

User avatar
coaledsweat
Site Moderator
Posts: 10952
Joined: Fri. Oct. 27, 2006 2:05 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea
Location: Guilford, Connecticut

Post By: coaledsweat » Tue. Jan. 09, 2018 9:42 pm

A fine sculpture?

User avatar
Sunny Boy
Member
Posts: 15437
Joined: Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 1:40 pm
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
Location: Central NY

Post By: Sunny Boy » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 8:44 am

You can burn it by adding small clumps of it to a firebed as if it was a big piece of coal. Don't spread over the firebed, or do it alot, it will build up too much ash in the firebed and smother a lot of it. But if you do it each time you get to the bottom of a coal bucket or bag, that's about often enough that it doesn't cause a problem. After all, why waste it - it's heat you paid for. ;)

And don't toss, or drop it into the stove. That might cause it to ignite quickly and flash back. Just place it directly onto the firebed with a small coal/ash shovel and it won't flair up.

I tried making coal bricketts by mixing the fines with baking flour in cupcake tins and letting then dry. Took a lot of time, plus the added cost of an equal volume of flour, so I went back to just occasionally adding to the firebed.

And, adding fines and small bits is a good way to slow a hot fire when it's really cold outside and the draft is very strong.

I guess the old timers didn't mind wasting the fines. My house belonged to a secession of local coal dealers. When I tore up the wood floor in the carriage barn, the ground under it was covered a foot deep with all coal fines over an area 24 x 36. A lot of wheel barrel loads to get it out of there to insulate and pour a radiant heat concrete slab for my shop.

Too bad I didn't have a coal stove at the time, that was a lot of BTUs that went to just being filler in my stone driveway.

Paul

User avatar
Lightning
Member
Posts: 9848
Joined: Wed. Nov. 16, 2011 9:51 am
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Overmodified/Bored out Clayton 1537
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Awesome Size
Location: Olean, NY

Post By: Lightning » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 9:23 am

Just to add to what Paul said, I use fines and small stuff to blanket the fire during warm spells. With a blanket of fines on top the coal bed I'm able to achieve low slow burns thru warm day time. The blanket helps insulate the coal bed by forcing hot gases within it to find longer passages thru. This keeps the coal bed healthy and happy and helps prevent it from forming dead spots during an idle period.

Some of the fines burn, some fall thru while clearing ash but at least they have a purpose. Also by using this blanket technique I save coal by not overheating the house just to maintain a fire during warm days.

I have a home made "sorting facility" and save my fines and small pieces for warmer weather.

User avatar
freetown fred
Member
Posts: 23488
Joined: Thu. Dec. 31, 2009 12:33 pm
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut
Location: Freetown,NY 13803

Post By: freetown fred » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 9:39 am

T, what brand coal are you burning to be having so much fines? The little I get with my bulk BLASCHAK goes right into the HITZER = HEAT. :)

User avatar
windyhill4.2
Member
Posts: 6030
Joined: Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 2:17 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
Location: Jonestown,Pa.17038

Post By: windyhill4.2 » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 9:47 am

I throw my fines out on the ground,scattered around...

I keep reading that good clean,sanitary drinking water is scarce....

Coal is used for carbon filters....

So... i am dumping my fines to run the rain water & snow melt,dog & cat pee, thru the big carbon filter i am creating by scattering my fines.

I am using those troublesome fines to create more clean water for humanity...

I consider it a BIG win-win... :D

User avatar
warminmn
Member
Posts: 3215
Joined: Tue. Feb. 08, 2011 5:59 pm
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Junior, Efel Nestor Martin, Frankenstove
Coal Size/Type: nut and stove anthracite
Other Heating: wood and a little LP
Location: Land of 11,842 lakes

Post By: warminmn » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 10:01 am

If I had so many I was forced to sift them they would go on my driveway, but that wouldnt work for a paved driveway. I might even use the whole works, good sized and fines, for landscaping if it was that bad. Shiny black rocks would look ok for that.

Mine just go in the fire with the rest of it. I sifted some soft coal once and never again. That is not a fun job.

Den034071
Member
Posts: 584
Joined: Sat. Jun. 25, 2011 4:30 pm
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer, 3095

Post By: Den034071 » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 2:34 pm

Don't laugh about following .Mix one part Portland cement an 4 parts fines add water keep stiff .I use 4inch by 4 inch margarine plastic containersan also one pound empty coffee cans for my forms .Note your fireboxmust be able to handle this size Coal Cookie .Burns just like Stove Coal .Patent Pending . jack

Visit Hitzer Stoves

User avatar
coaledsweat
Site Moderator
Posts: 10952
Joined: Fri. Oct. 27, 2006 2:05 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea
Location: Guilford, Connecticut

Post By: coaledsweat » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 2:54 pm

Greg (LsFarm) used to just roll them up tight in a newspaper and throw them on the fire as I recall.

rberq
Member
Posts: 5592
Joined: Mon. Apr. 16, 2007 9:34 pm
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1300 with hopper
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Nut
Other Heating: Oil hot water radiators (fuel oil); propane
Location: Central Maine

Post By: rberq » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 3:25 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:
Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 9:47 am
Coal is used for carbon filters....
So... i am dumping my fines to run the rain water & snow melt,dog & cat pee, thru the big carbon filter i am creating by scattering my fines.
I am using those troublesome fines to create more clean water for humanity...
:lol: :lol: I’m not as public spirited as Windy. Mine get dumped into the top of the hopper along with the nut coal. They don't come out the bottom into the ash pan, so I'm assuming they go up the chimney as CO2.

lincolnmania
Member
Posts: 1057
Joined: Fri. Jan. 26, 2007 9:55 pm
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: reading allegheny stoker
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: alaska kodiak stoker 1986. 1987 triburner, 1987 crane diamond
Location: Birdsboro PA.
Contact:

Post By: lincolnmania » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 5:55 pm

they used coal fines in the concrete for my house foundation.

User avatar
turbine
Member
Posts: 46
Joined: Sun. Jan. 16, 2011 9:14 am
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hand fed coal stove
Coal Size/Type: nut , stove
Other Heating: heat pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: TLC 2000
Location: Prince George, Va.

Post By: turbine » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 9:58 pm

freetown fred wrote:
Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 9:39 am
T, what brand coal are you burning to be having so much fines? The little I get with my bulk BLASCHAK goes right into the HITZER = HEAT. :)
Tractor Supply Kimmels nut. What they had couple years ago. Every size in the bag. Otherwise I have to drive 120 miles each way for Blaschak, which I love.

User avatar
deepwoods
Member
Posts: 616
Joined: Fri. Aug. 29, 2008 10:21 am
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & DS Machine Newstyle Champion
Coal Size/Type: nut (so far)
Other Heating: Ruud propane forced air system
Location: north central pa.

Post By: deepwoods » Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 11:04 pm

freetown fred wrote:
Wed. Jan. 10, 2018 9:39 am
T, what brand coal are you burning to be having so much fines? The little I get with my bulk BLASCHAK goes right into the HITZER = HEAT. :)
Same here, Blaschak bulk and right into the hopper. Fines filter down thru the big lumps slowly and infrequently I will find trace amounts of fines on top of a fresh shake. Fines cant be avoided in coal that has been handled a few times from the mine to dealer to you. Just part of burning coal.

User avatar
Pauliewog
Member
Posts: 1311
Joined: Mon. Dec. 02, 2013 12:15 am
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Dual Paddle Feed
Baseburners & Antiques: Fame Rosemont #20, Home Stove Works #25, Glenwood #6, Happy Thought Oak, Merry Bride #214, Sunnyside, Worlds Argand #114, New Golden Sun , & About 30 others.
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite
Location: Pittston, Pennsylvania

Post By: Pauliewog » Fri. Jan. 12, 2018 9:42 pm

I also save my fines and throw a shovel or so on the fire to slow it down. Going from below zero last week to almost 70* today I used up the last of them and ended up dumping a few cups of rice coal in the magazine this morning. I gave it a light shake this morning to lower the bed but left a good layer of ash on the grates and closed the primary completely.

Tonights lows are in the high teens and tomorrows back into the single digits. I will shake it down before I head up to the crib, open the primary up a bit, and top the magazine off with a mix of stove and nut. OAT currently 48* and stove temp down to 230* By morning it should be up to 400* - 450* and I'll just open it up a little at a time as the temperature drops.

Burned up every bit of fines we ever accumulated over the past 50 years with no problems.

Paulie

User avatar
windyhill4.2
Member
Posts: 6030
Joined: Fri. Nov. 22, 2013 2:17 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both
Location: Jonestown,Pa.17038

Post By: windyhill4.2 » Fri. Jan. 12, 2018 9:50 pm

To slow my stove down this am, i did not shake the grate or poke them or slice them.... i did nothing to encourage the ash to fall. I filled with coal,nut coal... stove ran at 250* all day. Tonite i shook the ashes down,poked a few dark spots & filled with nut coal.

My stove & my boiler both contribute their fines to my outdoor carbon filter.

Visit Hitzer Stoves

Post Reply

Return to “Hand Fired Coal Stoves & Furnaces Using Anthracite”