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wilder11354 · Post by **wilder11354** » Mon. Dec. 25, 2017 7:31 pm

So my question is...been running 50-93 at about 350>375 side outer panel temp By top plate, per Rutland thermometer reading. So how hot would be going to over fire temps? Rutland thermometer shows 500* or there about's as getting sketchy for fire temp? stack temps about 150* when at 350 range.

KingCoal · Post by **KingCoal** » Mon. Dec. 25, 2017 8:28 pm

the magnetic therms. are all segmented into temp zones focused on wood fires and particularly creosote production and fire concerns. they are good at showing good general comparative temps on and around the stove but that's about it.

what does Hitzer say about safe constant high side stove body temps. that's the question that needs answered.

i'll bet FFred and Oliverpower know.

on my DS conversion 500* on the usual hottest spot on the stove is pretty much like 5k on my bikes 9.5k redlined tach. the torque has muscled the house up to comfort level and the whole top end of it's ability is waiting for the call to show off.

i've reported hitting 750# before with no ill affects to the stove. my wife"s frame of mind was alittle challenged though.

wilder11354 · Post by **wilder11354** » Mon. Dec. 25, 2017 8:46 pm

Guess i will have to call Dave at Hitzer.. pick his wealth of knowledge a bit. Ohh 575* on thermometer is low side of entering danger area. Yes i know thermo is mainly designed for wood stoves.

freetown fred · Post by **freetown fred** » Mon. Dec. 25, 2017 9:43 pm

You're fine Bill. Call Dave for confirmation. Merry Christmas my friend. PS--throw them thar fkn thermos away. If the stove gets red, you're to hot & may cause grate warping!!

hank2 · Post by **hank2** » Mon. Dec. 25, 2017 10:04 pm

I can't help with the specifics for the Hitzer, either, but I would guess that 600 F is probably the official factory limit. If I
am remembering correctly that's what DS suggested on my circulator. Like KC, I've seen more than that after shakedown recoveries during serious running. High 400's are about the best I can hold on my circulator stove with about -.06 draft.

I have one of those woodstove magnetic pipe thermometers stuck on my pipe just because it's been laying around here forever. It's usually high by 50 degrees compared to an infrared thermo gun that I trust a lot more.

FF, right on with the color red. Been there more than once on an ancient pot belly, ok, cannon, years ago when I was a noob to hand fired.

DENNIS BAUER · Post by **DENNIS BAUER** » Mon. Dec. 25, 2017 10:20 pm

W. Although I'm new to the 50-93, tonight I bumped up the stove due to high winds and cold temp. 450° on stove, 205° on stack, pulling .06 on the manometer. This resulted in the wife getting upset and opening the window in the bedroom!

lincolnmania · Post by **lincolnmania** » Tue. Dec. 26, 2017 1:48 am

i had an old potbelly stove that was good when it was glowing red.....that was the stoves sweet spot.

KingCoal · Post by **KingCoal** » Tue. Dec. 26, 2017 7:49 am

don't you guys with big direct draft hand fire units find the paint smokin off your light gauge smoke pipe before you get any visible red on the stove body ?

hank2, you ever try your circulator at a steady -.04 and what ever bi metal setting required for comfort ?

steve

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Tue. Dec. 26, 2017 9:01 am

My Crane 404 has a cast iron pot so i have never seen the sides of the stove turn red. I know i have seen 700* on the hot spot at times. When my wife was still living ,she did a fair amount of cooking on the stove top. For cooking we generally ran the stove at 600-650*. Since my wife died , no cooking is done on it & i generally run it in the 400-500* range which is enough to keep my cold concrete floored living room comfortable along with the hot air system collecting heat from my coal boiler.
My stove only holds about 40# of nut coal so running it hotter than 500* requires 3 times/day tending to keep it working an average temp.

I would find it hard to believe that 500-600* would hurt the Hitzer... not with the reputation that stove has.

hank2 · Post by **hank2** » Tue. Dec. 26, 2017 2:04 pm

KingCoal wrote: ↑
Tue. Dec. 26, 2017 7:49 am

hank2, you ever try your circulator at a steady -.04 and what ever bi metal setting required for comfort ?

steve

KC, my effective draft is sometimes only -.04 and even less in mild outdoor temps. So I do spend some time there. This is with a 2 story interior chimney. But I'm in a low area, surrounded by hills on two sides. This fall I noticed a seam on my baro where it was tee'd in that could have been costing me a little draft for years. I sealed that up and now I can maintain -.05 or .06 in any colder weather. The baro is set a smidge above -.06. My baro rarely opens unless it's a particularly strong wind. I've found that this circulator is easier to get some serious temps out of with a higher draft than down around -.04 and whatever bi-metal setting. I can see what you're pointing out. Of course, whatever coal I'm using is a big part of the mix with settings. I never got around to a bulk delivery this year, so I've burned about 4 different sourced coals from 2 different bagged and a couple leftover stashes. The bagged Blaschak I got his year is very good white ash stuff.

Thank you for your suggestion. If I have to deal with some less hard, higher volatile coal again, I'll try those settings again.

freetown fred · Post by **freetown fred** » Tue. Dec. 26, 2017 3:37 pm

HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Start your own TOPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

wilder11354 · Post by **wilder11354** » Sun. Dec. 31, 2017 6:39 pm

Nope no glow red exterior panels.... running about 450>475*. this stove packs heat,,,, but still learning, first year with it. Right now with current 0>10* avg temp swings burning about 55>60 pounds a day.

DENNIS BAUER · Post by **DENNIS BAUER** » Tue. Jan. 02, 2018 3:12 pm

KingCoal wrote: ↑
Tue. Dec. 26, 2017 7:49 am
don't you guys with big direct draft hand fire units find the paint smokin off your light gauge smoke pipe before you get any visible red on the stove body ?

hank2, you ever try your circulator at a steady -.04 and what ever bi metal setting required for comfort ?

steve

No on the smoke because the interior single wall pipe I had it made out of stainless. After a few good heat treatments it gets a really cool tan/blue/grey stainless look to it. I think it really made the look of the stove.

As for hurting it good luck, I had a little mishap with the 30-95 this weekend where the back door on the bi-metal damper was stuck open about an inch. (chunk of coal some how got down there at wedge the door open.) I tended the stove at about 9am. Came back in around 2pm and the stove was well over 800* and the stack was right there close. Only damage was the probe style thermometer in the stack now won't got back down below 700* and is stuck there. Stainless pipe looks cooler then hell though.
I backed the stove down and she's back down idling along around 300* where it belongs.

freetown fred · Post by **freetown fred** » Tue. Jan. 02, 2018 3:17 pm

That sounds just right Bill. Ya got that place all sealed up??

Happy New Year.

wilder11354 wrote: ↑
Sun. Dec. 31, 2017 6:39 pm
Nope no glow red exterior panels.... running about 450>475*. this stove packs heat,,,, but still learning, first year with it. Right now with current 0>10* avg temp swings burning about 55>60 pounds a day.

freetown fred · Post by **freetown fred** » Tue. Jan. 02, 2018 3:21 pm

Dennis, I had my flapper lock open this AM--don't have a clue why--just played with the dial--a few times & kept rechecking--she's settled back to normal now. No wind, -8* don't know!! Just that's she's workin right again