Coal burning year #2 has commenced
- jrouse84
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Well, this was much easier year #2 than last year . Got it started and didn't set the smoke alarm nor the carbon monoxide detector off this time. I believe it happened a few times last year with all of the door opening and not fully knowing how to get it going correctly. I'm still new, but it took me about 4 hours from start to finish from where i could walk away and leave it alone, taking into account getting it full enough that i could use the hopper and get that full also. I know last season i ended up taking the hopper out at the coldest part of the season. I live in KY so its not too terribly cold. This will be the first week that it is steady in the 30's during the daytime. I am going to try the hopper one more time and see how it goes. Last year i had 3 windows around the stove that were not covered or anything. This year i have them covered, sealed off and insulated for the winter. We will see how this goes and if the heat retains better than last year. Thanks for everyone's help again. Here's to another year!
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fill out your profile , and what for DS circulator do u have and how does it treat you ! ?
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Congrats, sounds like your getting the hang of everything....
- windyhill4.2
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Do you have a thermometer on the stack ??
Coal exhaust is usually not hot enough to warrant putting a stack heat reclaimer on.
You will need to send some heat up the stack to keep the proper draft anyway.
Best see what the actual stack temp is b4 taking away from the needed stack heat.
Yes, many wood stove stacks benefit from getting that extra heat off the stack,but coal is a different fuel.
- jrouse84
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I do not have a thermometer on the stack. I just use an infrared thermometer to check it with. The straight section going straight up, is about 4' and that tends to stay 225ish, then it takes a 90 and goes to the left about 3' and it is about 140 on the top most part before it exits into the chimney. I was told (or read somewhere on here) that the temps inside the pipes are generally double the reading that you will get on the pipe outside. I figure if im sending 500 degree heat out the back before it turns to the chimney and ultimately cools to 300 or so, i am wasting a lot and need to conserve it better.
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I think the inside temperature of the pipe is only about 100 degrees hotter. Old houses had interior chimneys to help warm the house.
- joeq
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Hello JR., I'm just finding your thread now. looks interesting. Can't wait to hear about your improvements. Your DSC looks like it'll really crank out some heat. don't forget to keep a notebook of your changes and adjustments. These guys will have you tuned in, in no time, but you might forget how you got from A to B in the future. I'm still learning myself, and have a bad habit of making the same mistakes, multiple times.
- ASea
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I'm on my second year as well. My biggest issue is I can't stop poking at the stove LOL. These 12hr burn times in the Chubby kill me with suspense.
- oliver power
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I haven't fired up my D.S. in the shop yet this year (I think that's going to change this week). If I'm not mistaking, my stack temp last year was around 125* using a magnetic thermometer, about 2' above the smoke outlet. Maybe a foot above the barometric damper.
- jrouse84
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Assuming the 1600 is made the same as mine.... What are your poking habbits? I have yet to really figure that part out. Mine has a ledge all the way around the fire box that seems to catch ashes and hinder the shaking process over an extended time and makes the edges not get enough coal. You can really tell just how much it catches when you go to clean it out and its completly empty but you still have a good size amount of ash on that ledge.oliver power wrote: ↑Thu. Dec. 07, 2017 2:19 amI haven't fired up my D.S. in the shop yet this year (I think that's going to change this week). If I'm not mistaking, my stack temp last year was around 125* using a magnetic thermometer, about 2' above the smoke outlet. Maybe a foot above the barometric damper.
- oliver power
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Started my D.S. 1600 today. After things settled out, the stove temp is 425*. Stack temp is 75*. Those numbers are quite good. I'm running without the hopper. Try it, I think you'll like it.jrouse84 wrote: ↑Thu. Dec. 07, 2017 9:16 amAssuming the 1600 is made the same as mine.... What are your poking habbits? I have yet to really figure that part out. Mine has a ledge all the way around the fire box that seems to catch ashes and hinder the shaking process over an extended time and makes the edges not get enough coal. You can really tell just how much it catches when you go to clean it out and its completly empty but you still have a good size amount of ash on that ledge.
- joeq
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What's the benefit of leaving the hopper out Oliver? I tried doing that on my surdiac, but because the grates were so small, and the bottom retaining plate couldn't hold that big of a pile, it really wasn't very successful. Maybe the DS will except more W/O any ill effects.