G111 Continued

Getting ready to light my 111 for cuff use. Can anyone help with an ash pan. Inside I have a little issue too.

Sunny Boy wrote: ↑

Wed. Feb. 28, 2018 9:57 am

Not to take anything away from the big stove owners, but when you can get a small firepot stove to consistently run at it's longest, you have truly mastered the "art" of burning coal. And it sounds to me like your there, Joe.
Paul

Thanks Paul, and once again you know I have you guys to thank for it.
CN, your bricks look pretty good. I don't see any problem at all. Hey, where's your upper grate? Can't wait to hear about your stove. I don't have any extra pans for ya, but you know where the candy store is. For now, maybe you can find one of the wifes cake pans she won't miss, and try it out. ( I won't tell, if you don't)

And my experiment continues. Tried something today, for the 1st time.
My normal ritual was to tend 3 times a day. B4 work, after work, and B4 bed. The B4 work was the quickest, and least thorough, the one at bedtime was second in line, but coming home from work, I would spend the most time, shaking her down, and reloading for the night. This morning, I didn't do anything to the stove, "except", take my poker, and stab the grate pile a couple three times, and that was it. No heating up, riddle down, and topping off, just a couple jabs, that I couldn't resist. So here we are, pretty much almost 17 hrs later, and here are the photos. Sorry for the dark one on the bottom, but you get the idea. It's not reading more than 150-200. You'll notice the pot temp. thermometer is still reading about 400°. It amazes me how long it'll hold this. It appears the top section of the coal bed, is just starting to show ash. But lots of life still available. When I shook it down B4 bed last nite, there wasn't hardly as much ash dropping as what would normally fall. It just tickles me pink. I'm gunna let it go for maybe another hr, and see how long to get back up to speed. OFN

coalnewbie wrote: ↑

Wed. Feb. 28, 2018 2:55 pm

Getting ready to light my 111 for cuff use. Can anyone help with an ash pan. Inside I have a little issue too.

So now, it's just a brick lined oak stove ?

Paul

No, the top iron work is missing. There is still the connection to the base. I am not sure what he previous owner was thinking of. I will try to get a boroscope down there. One thing is for sure the firebricks are not coming out.

Those bricks look premo CN, no need to take them out. You still have the suspended pot feature, even if the upper grate is missing, but another member would operate his 111 W/O it, and said the only problem was loading coal into it. When the level neared the top, some stray pieces would fall between the cracks. I may be able to help you out, depending how you like your stove.

Love this stove, got to get it in action. I also have a 109 but not quite man enough for the application I have in mind. Beef stew, boil it up and then transfer it to the stove and leave it all day... yummy. This is an orange and cinnamon pot pourri.

Now I'm confused CN. What stove is that? Thought you were firing up a G111?

Well, once again, my patience ran out, and I tended to the stove...after almost an 18 hr burn. it refired normally, and didn't dump but 1/2 the ash. Here's a couple photos, one of the ash pan that was burning for all that time, and the pot from above. I'll admit, I did throw a small scoop and a half on top, B4 shaking it down. I wasn't sure how much waste would end up in the pan I know I wasted some good coal into the pan, but I really wanted to shake it good, to clear as much ash as I could, out of it. I'm curious about the amount of coal that has been burning for a day and a half, and how much substance is left in it. I would've thought the stuff would be so burned down, it would turn to powder during the shaking. i usually would go through a bag a day, but haven't opened a new one for a couple days. It really hasn't eaten that much. I know the heat out put is nothing like a G6, or similar stove, that would still be heating a house after that length of time. The barrel temp on this little thing was pretty cool, but the pot stayed hot. Has its good points, and bad points. But after these past couple days experiments, I'm pretty satisfied with the performance. I wouldn't be surprised if it would hold heat in the pot for over 20 hrs, (at these low settings, and covered in fines) but don't really see a need to. Be interesting to see what mother nature has in store for us the next few weeks. We're pretty warm here right now, and I only have a weeks worth of LA nut left. I could buy more if needed. We'll see what happens. I might try experimenting, (again), and try running it W/O throwing the fines on it. Think I already was running that way, but it can't hurt, to try again.

Now I'm confused CN. What stove is that? Thought you were firing up a G111?

Yes I am but all these ideas will continue with a 111 - yes?

So is the stove in your pic an "our Glenwood" #9? And sure, the basics goin on here would apply to all stoves, differences being in amount of coal held, and length of burn. Is that 9 a suspended pot, holding about 30-40 lbs?

Smaller pot. So when I get up for a night urination I would have to go downstairs and that is a deal breaker.

You've totally lost me bro. That's OK.

That style of ash door that has to lift over a hook to close is rarely airtight as well as the shutter type of air inlet. I suspect that is why the internal bypass for primary air was supplied, because it is the only way to truly restrict air through the coal bed.

I would measure the over fire draft through the secondary air holes with everything closed completely. Then set the draft to .02 using the MPD and internal draft bypass, and see what happens

franco b wrote: ↑

Thu. Mar. 01, 2018 7:43 pm

That style of ash door that has to lift over a hook to close is rarely airtight as well as the shutter type of air inlet. I suspect that is why the internal bypass for primary air was supplied, because it is the only way to truly restrict air through the coal bed.

I would measure the over fire draft through the secondary air holes with everything closed completely. Then set the draft to .02 using the MPD and internal draft bypass, and see what happens

I agree with franco b, until I put rope gasket around the inside edge of the load door and the ash pan door my stove had a mind of it's own. It's now like a wild dog with a shock collar!

I seem to be drifting further and further away in understanding the responses. CN is stating he has a G111 ready to fire, yet shows a photo of a G9 (?), which neither are listed in his profile, but I guess some people have many stoves not listed, and FB, are you giving me a tip on how to get even more miles out of my stove, by making a better seal around the stove?