Question About Unburned Coal When Using Coal and Wood

 
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Post by Jgib4 » Mon. Nov. 20, 2017 10:48 pm

joeq wrote:
Mon. Nov. 20, 2017 10:45 pm
Not sure what your pipe looks like, and of course the location that you take your reading is relevant too, but most people don't have over 200-250°.
Man this thing is running me out of the house lol. I just turned the damper back some. House is now up 7 degrees since I started it a couple hours ago.

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Post by Sunny Boy » Mon. Nov. 20, 2017 11:01 pm

With coal, it's not like burning wood where you need to keep the pipe temps over 250 F to reduce the chance of creosote condensation in the chimney system.

High pipe surface temps is an indication of less coal heat going to the house. You want to try for the lowest pipe temps that the stove can still give you the house warmth you need.

Better to have a stove that can heat you out of the house now, than not have enough stove when the weather gets really cold . ;)

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Post by Jgib4 » Mon. Nov. 20, 2017 11:12 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
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With coal, it's not like burning wood where you need to keep the pipe temps over 250 F to reduce the chance of creosote condensation in the chimney system.

High pipe surface temps is an indication of less coal heat going to the house. You want to try for the lowest pipe temps that the stove can still give you the house warmth you need.

Better to have a stove that can heat you out of the house now, than not have enough stove when the weather gets really cold . ;)

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That’s a fact. Before the coal would not heat like this. So it is either the change in coal or the addition of the insulation. I will try a mix tomorrow and see how that burns.

 
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Post by Lightning » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 4:54 am

I'm telling ya man, sealing those bypasses makes the difference between it being a wood stove or it being a coal stove.

There's still trials to be had, yer not "out of the woods" yet haha. Clearing ash thoroughly in these sloped sided fire boxes is a big hurdle to get over. But once you have that part under control, I think you'll be pretty happy with using coal in that furnace.

 
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Post by Jgib4 » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 9:15 am

Woke up this morning it was 75 in the House. Went down around 9am to check the furnace and it was out. At first I was disappointed until I started pushing the ash around. Here is 2 pics. The first is before I pushed the ash through the grates the second is after. I’d say about 90percent ash.
So my next question did I burn it to hot or did I not add enough coal?

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Post by windyhill4.2 » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 9:32 am

If you didn't fill to the top of the fire brick + heaped in the center... it wasn't full.

 
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Post by Jgib4 » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 9:41 am

windyhill4.2 wrote:
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If you didn't fill to the top of the fire brick + heaped in the center... it wasn't full.
It was to the top of the fire bricks in the center but not the sides. Kinda like a mound.


 
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Post by Lightning » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 9:41 am

windyhill4.2 wrote:
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If you didn't fill to the top of the fire brick + heaped in the center... it wasn't full.
That is correct. If you didn't add any coal after that last pic you posted of it burning last night, it didn't have near enough coal in it. This is where the baro will help you smooth out the burn.

 
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Post by Lightning » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 9:43 am

To elaborate on what I posted above, it sounds like it burned hot and fast because the house was so warm in the morning and most the coal was burned up.

 
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Post by Jgib4 » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 9:45 am

Lightning wrote:
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To elaborate on what I posted above, it sounds like it burned hot and fast because the house was so warm in the morning and most the coal was burned up.
How many spins out do you normally have on your damper?

 
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Post by Jgib4 » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 9:46 am

It definitely burned hot lol House was 78 when I went to bed last night. So I’m about 5 hours it raised 9 degrees haha

 
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Post by Qtown1835 » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 9:52 am

Needs to be full like this.
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Post by Jgib4 » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 10:10 am

Qtown1835 wrote:
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Needs to be full like this.
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Post by Qtown1835 » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 10:19 am

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Post by Jgib4 » Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 10:21 am

Qtown1835 wrote:
Tue. Nov. 21, 2017 10:19 am
Furnace-2.jpg
Thanks. I will give that a go tonight. I’m honestly just pumped that it burned hot enough to become ash and I didn’t have to shovel a bunch of unused coal out or start another fire on top a non lit coal bed.


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