Managing Low Slow Burns

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 12:21 pm

Lightning wrote:
freetown fred wrote: Course I got a real simplistic, functional stove, not one of those silly ass--ya gotta mess with them all the time kind!!
Who visits their stove more than once a day in this weather? :lol:
Not me....
Guilty as charged :D Just don't tell my wife.........

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 12:30 pm

Lightning wrote:
freetown fred wrote: Course I got a real simplistic, functional stove, not one of those silly ass--ya gotta mess with them all the time kind!!
Who visits their stove more than once a day in this weather? :lol:
Not me....
Who indeed.

Morning coffee and fire tending, cooking breakfast, mid-morning coffee break, heating up leftovers for lunch, mid-afternoon coffee break, cooking dinner, bed-time fire tending and empty ash pan. Other than that, ....not much. :D

Paul

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 12:48 pm

I'm bored. Loggins done till things dry out a bit. Still got a foot of snow to melt. Gotta put a new push rod in the Cub Cadet 2185--8N starter is just wingin--I'll try just pullin the starter & putting it back in or just get a bigger hammer!!--who knows--got to get a tad warmer before I start doin those two things--chain saw & weed whacker both started up with a couple pulls today.

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 1:07 pm

I went down to the shop yesterday and visited with my brother for a while. He has the Hitzer 50-93 down to once per day attention. He just sets it on #6 and lets it do its thing. No MPD, no baro, no manometer, no drama.
freetown fred wrote:8N starter is just wingin--I'll try just pullin the starter & putting it back in or just get a bigger hammer!!
Fred, pull that starter and set it next to the Hitzer overnight. When you see the puddle of water in the morning, pat yourself on the back, give it a good thump on a block of wood, and go re-install it. :)

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 1:09 pm

I tend to bank ash in the corners and sides. My square box stove with the round center shaker plate lends itself to that pretty easily. I shake it down 2x a day still but I don't mess with the corners like I typically do every 2-3 days when I need a lot more heat. The middle tends to burn and not so much on the sides. I can tend to it once a day, but recovery time is much higher so I stick to twice a day. This is the time of year I shut down the oil heat in the whole house totally and just coal it running at idle unless it gets cool at night! It makes such a difference in the oil man visits! ;)

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 1:34 pm

freetown fred wrote:I'm bored. Loggins done till things dry out a bit. Still got a foot of snow to melt. Gotta put a new push rod in the Cub Cadet 2185--8N starter is just wingin--I'll try just pullin the starter & putting it back in or just get a bigger hammer!!--who knows--got to get a tad warmer before I start doin those two things--chain saw & weed whacker both started up with a couple pulls today.
I use to have a 2135 Fred. What engine dose the 2185 have. I know one of them had an Onan.

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 1:48 pm

Running at lower temps, I put the hopper back in the D.S.. This dries, and pre-heats the coal. Dumping cool, damp coal on a low burning fire isn't good. The fire is burning low enough, it looks black, with red cracks in it. I don't want to cover with cold, damp coal.

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 2:05 pm

freetown fred wrote:I'm bored. Loggins done till things dry out a bit. Still got a foot of snow to melt. Gotta put a new push rod in the Cub Cadet 2185--8N starter is just wingin--I'll try just pullin the starter & putting it back in or just get a bigger hammer!!--who knows--got to get a tad warmer before I start doin those two things--chain saw & weed whacker both started up with a couple pulls today.
I have to swap out a head gasket in my Toro lawn tractor. Got the parts late autumn & it got too cold. Should be a 35 curse job I reckon. I got a torque wrench for the job at Harbor Freight for $7 too.

I got all electric chain saws, so they'll start up easy enough and the weed wacker has never failed to start.

Now gotta get ready to seed, apply grub control etc. I'll miss winter.

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 2:52 pm

My bad Scott---2165-16 horse Briggs--the mind is a terrible thing to misplace :roll: --Rob, yep, that's the game plan-thanx.
oliver power wrote:
freetown fred wrote:I'm bored. Loggins done till things dry out a bit. Still got a foot of snow to melt. Gotta put a new push rod in the Cub Cadet 2185--8N starter is just wingin--I'll try just pullin the starter & putting it back in or just get a bigger hammer!!--who knows--got to get a tad warmer before I start doin those two things--chain saw & weed whacker both started up with a couple pulls today.
I use to have a 2135 Fred. What engine dose the 2185 have. I know one of them had an Onan.

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 8:21 pm

Wow, I'm really impressed with the results today. Overnight the low was 41 degrees. The thermostat even clicked on once or twice to perk the fire. Then today the high got to be around 57 and the house didn't overheat at all. Over the load door stayed around 190 and the pipe was 135. At rev up before shake down the pipe cleared 300 degrees in under 15 minutes, got some Neato pics too :) The first three pictures are after rev up before I touched it, the last picture is after a shake and rake. Tonight I again used 5 pounds of fines for a blanket.
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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 8:49 pm

Now you found a good use for your fines! Im glad it worked. You have put so much work into figuring out how to maximize your heating with that stove and you deserve a little luck with it. If you ever get that Hitzer model you've mentioned you are going to get bored :lol:

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 8:49 pm

What happens when ya run out of fines. Seems like ya should just be able to set one of your ho-dickys to actually control the stove. I mean, REALLY!!!!!!!! ;) Back to the drawing board with ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 9:11 pm

freetown fred wrote:What happens when ya run out of fines. Seems like ya should just be able to set one of your ho-dickys to actually control the stove. I mean, REALLY!!!!!!!! ;) Back to the drawing board with ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now Fred, Lightning is still running the Clayton, not the HITZER. :lol:

By the way Lightning; What HITZER model were you thinking?

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 9:20 pm

freetown fred wrote:What happens when ya run out of fines. Seems like ya should just be able to set one of your ho-dickys to actually control the stove. I mean, REALLY!!!!!!!! ;) Back to the drawing board with ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With that bread-rack sifter he has now I think Lee will make out "fine". :D

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Post Mon. Mar. 27, 2017 9:37 pm

Oh, I get it. That was a pun right??? LOL where the hell did my "more smilies" go?????????????????? RICHARD??????????? Damn, my trademark, GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

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