Hotblast 1357 Mods

 
User avatar
hotblast1357
Member
Posts: 5661
Joined: Mon. Mar. 10, 2014 10:06 pm
Location: Peasleeville NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace

Post by hotblast1357 » Mon. Nov. 10, 2014 8:00 am

Here are the mods that I have done to my hotblast 1357 with the help of this great forum and the people on it. I am heating a 2000 Sq. Ft. ranch style with basement. I am running this furnace right now at 19.3 lbs per day at 24 tend times, 130-180 over the load door temps, I have been lit since 10/4/14 I went and bought 3/4 inch black steel pipe the length of my stove, installed a 90 and cut 1" off from my front fire bricks so that I could run the black pipes down into the ash pan area, I got the formula from lightning that told me how many holes to drill for equal air flow. it works great so far, and this way I did not have to drill big holes the front of my stove. I came across some mica from the father-in-law that I used for the glass door, I only wanted to view the fire to see what it was doing without disturbing it with the load door open, so I did not see the need to cut a big hole and get a piece of glass, this works great and I did it with pieces lieing around the house. I moved my snap disc that controls my plenum fan to in between the two 8" warm air ducts and installed two quarters under neath it so that it would stop short cycling so much when running at low temps, this works great also. I also installed the over fire safety snap disc in the same spot, set to 175 degrees, I bought this snap disc from grainger for around $20. next I wanted to have some thermostat control of my furnace, so I got a used zone valve from a friend and made a bracket to the back of the furnace jacket, the 1/1/2" pipe coming out the back of mine feeds under grate air, and is the factory spot that the forced combustion fan goes on that you can purchase from U.S. Stove. So I bought a rain cap for a exhaust from tractor supply as a flap, and hooked a chain up to the zone valve with a arm that I bent that fits into the zone valve. I know that if I leave my manual spin draft control at a turn and a half during the day my furnace will keep a temp above 130 and will not go out seeings I do not need much heat during the day due to the sun heating the house, and I simply open it too 2 turns during the night, so I set my thermostat to say 72 degrees, and if my furnace cannot keep the house at 72 or higher with the manual settings, the thermostat opens the actuator and that lets in a small amount of extra air which ramps my stove up enough to satisfy the thermostat, since 10/4/14 my house has not dropped below 72 unless I turn it down, it is working great, now when it gets colder I will simply run my manual control at say 2 turns during the day and 2/1/2 at night, or whichever it needs, this is not a complete thermostat control of my furnace, this is to simply help when there is sudden temp drops outside or cold winds which happen often, so far the only problem ive had is the zone valve, it is old and the plastic gear is stripping, but I already have a actuator from McGiever that I am currently setting up and this one will not fail and will work great, I will keep everyone up to date on here. I hope this helps a lot of people that have these and anyone else, these furnaces are on the cheap side but can burn anthracite great! I would like to thank lightning (Lee) for the inspiration on all of these mods and the tips and tricks to make all of this happen and a thanks goes out to everyone else on here, a lot of great knowledge on here!

Attachments

secondary pipes.jpg

secondary burn pipes

.JPG | 113.9KB | secondary pipes.jpg
burn pipes.jpg

where the secondary burn pipes get there air from

.JPG | 79.5KB | burn pipes.jpg
glass mod.jpg

where i am going to install the mica

.JPG | 97.9KB | glass mod.jpg
mica cover.jpg

frame that hold the mica in place

.JPG | 104KB | mica cover.jpg
new load door.jpg

final product

.JPG | 108KB | new load door.jpg
stove mod.jpg

where i moved my snap disc to that controls the plenum fan

.JPG | 150KB | stove mod.jpg
actuator.jpg

old zone valve with custom mount and arm

.JPG | 168.5KB | actuator.jpg
actuator open.jpg

this is with a call for heat from the thermostat

.JPG | 64.2KB | actuator open.jpg
over fire safety.jpg

over fire safety snap disc

.JPG | 178.5KB | over fire safety.jpg


 
User avatar
Lightning
Site Moderator
Posts: 14669
Joined: Wed. Nov. 16, 2011 9:51 am
Location: Olean, NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: Modified AA 130
Coal Size/Type: Pea Size - Anthracite

Post by Lightning » Mon. Nov. 10, 2014 2:15 pm

That's awesome man!! I love seeing some good ol clever ingenuity! Nice work!
Very cool 8-)

 
User avatar
hotblast1357
Member
Posts: 5661
Joined: Mon. Mar. 10, 2014 10:06 pm
Location: Peasleeville NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace

Post by hotblast1357 » Mon. Nov. 10, 2014 2:37 pm

thank you! hopefully some of this can be helpful to others.

 
User avatar
michaelanthony
Member
Posts: 4550
Joined: Sat. Nov. 22, 2008 10:42 pm
Location: millinocket,me.
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box stove
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Gold Marc Independence
Baseburners & Antiques: Home Sparkle 12
Coal Size/Type: 'nut
Other Heating: Fujitsu mini split, FHA oil furnace

Post by michaelanthony » Mon. Nov. 10, 2014 2:53 pm

hotblast1357 wrote:thank you! hopefully some of this can be helpful to others.
Absolutely, I love the exhaust rain cap idea with the zone valve as well as the snap switches for the plenum fans...clever yes and then some!

 
User avatar
hotblast1357
Member
Posts: 5661
Joined: Mon. Mar. 10, 2014 10:06 pm
Location: Peasleeville NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace

Post by hotblast1357 » Tue. Nov. 11, 2014 10:03 am

Thank you MA in excited to see how this is all going to do this winter.

 
User avatar
Ky Speedracer
Member
Posts: 492
Joined: Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 9:38 pm
Location: Middletown, Kentucky
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Florence HotBlast NO.68 & Potbelly
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: HotBlast 1557M
Coal Size/Type: Ky Lump & Anthracite Nut
Other Heating: Oil

Post by Ky Speedracer » Thu. Jan. 22, 2015 9:24 pm

Re: The relaxation of burning coal...
PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:03 pm
hotblast 1357 mods
Here's what I did with some mica.

That would be nice but I would need to figure out another way to get control of my over the fire air.
My bit is really sensitive to that.

 
User avatar
hotblast1357
Member
Posts: 5661
Joined: Mon. Mar. 10, 2014 10:06 pm
Location: Peasleeville NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace

Post by hotblast1357 » Fri. Jan. 23, 2015 7:26 am

I forgot your burning bit, oh could put another spin on the load door


 
User avatar
hotblast1357
Member
Posts: 5661
Joined: Mon. Mar. 10, 2014 10:06 pm
Location: Peasleeville NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace

Post by hotblast1357 » Mon. Feb. 02, 2015 12:15 pm

Just a lil update, I will try to clean the mica tonight to get a better pic of the pipes in action.

Attachments

image.jpg

16 hour burn

.JPG | 102.8KB | image.jpg
image.jpg

Some secondary burn with the pipes after a re load

.JPG | 63.9KB | image.jpg

 
User avatar
Lightning
Site Moderator
Posts: 14669
Joined: Wed. Nov. 16, 2011 9:51 am
Location: Olean, NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: Modified AA 130
Coal Size/Type: Pea Size - Anthracite

Post by Lightning » Mon. Feb. 02, 2015 7:31 pm

I re orientated them.. Very nice!
By the looks of the flames, I'd say that is just the right amount of secondary air :)

Attachments

Hotblast1357a.jpg
.JPG | 32.1KB | Hotblast1357a.jpg
Hotblast1357b.jpg
.JPG | 22.5KB | Hotblast1357b.jpg

 
User avatar
hotblast1357
Member
Posts: 5661
Joined: Mon. Mar. 10, 2014 10:06 pm
Location: Peasleeville NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace

Post by hotblast1357 » Mon. Feb. 02, 2015 8:03 pm

I think so too! Hopefully tonight after I get done snow blowing I can clean the mica and get a real good pic

 
User avatar
hotblast1357
Member
Posts: 5661
Joined: Mon. Mar. 10, 2014 10:06 pm
Location: Peasleeville NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace

Post by hotblast1357 » Sat. Feb. 28, 2015 8:29 pm

This thing is just awesome.

Attachments

image.jpg

14 hour burn

.JPG | 147.7KB | image.jpg
image.jpg
.JPG | 68.4KB | image.jpg

 
User avatar
Lightning
Site Moderator
Posts: 14669
Joined: Wed. Nov. 16, 2011 9:51 am
Location: Olean, NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: Modified AA 130
Coal Size/Type: Pea Size - Anthracite

Post by Lightning » Sat. Feb. 28, 2015 9:12 pm

Looks good man!! :)

 
User avatar
hotblast1357
Member
Posts: 5661
Joined: Mon. Mar. 10, 2014 10:06 pm
Location: Peasleeville NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace

Post by hotblast1357 » Sun. Mar. 01, 2015 8:16 am

Thanks bud!

 
User avatar
joeq
Member
Posts: 5743
Joined: Sat. Feb. 11, 2012 11:53 am
Location: Northern CT
Hand Fed Coal Stove: G111, Southard Robertson

Post by joeq » Sun. Mar. 01, 2015 9:45 am

hotblast1357 wrote:This thing is just awesome.
Nice looking fire. How old is that burning coal bed? 12 hrs? 20 hrs?

 
User avatar
hotblast1357
Member
Posts: 5661
Joined: Mon. Mar. 10, 2014 10:06 pm
Location: Peasleeville NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260 coal gun
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite pea
Other Heating: air source heat pump, oil furnace

Post by hotblast1357 » Sun. Mar. 01, 2015 11:09 am

The pic is labeled, it was at 14 hours last night.


Post Reply

Return to “Hand Fired Coal Stoves & Furnaces Using Anthracite”