Box Stove to Base Heater Conversion Adventure
- lsayre
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In order to gain some well needed perspective here one must ponder how it is that Freetown Fred heats a very large old (century?) farm house in an area with well more annual HDD's with only an inexpensive modern box stove (unmodified), and he does it on roughly 2.5 tons per year. He clams to be quite comfortable.
- SWPaDon
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Your right. FF says HE is comfortable, but his dog is runnin around the house with a fur coat on :punk:lsayre wrote:In order to gain some well needed perspective here one must ponder how it is that Freetown Fred heats a very large old (century?) farm house in an area with well more annual HDD's with only an inexpensive modern box stove (unmodified), and he does it on roughly 2.5 tons per year. He clams to be quite comfortable.
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good point.lsayre wrote:In order to gain some well needed perspective here one must ponder how it is that Freetown Fred heats a very large old (century?) farm house in an area with well more annual HDD's with only an inexpensive modern box stove (unmodified), and he does it on roughly 2.5 tons per year. He clams to be quite comfortable.
OK FFred, come clean on how you ARE doing that.
- Lightning
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We had this figured out on another thread somewhere. He admitted that the coal guy doesn't measure his coal precisely, or something to that effect.. I think it's reasonable that he's burning close to 6 tons but nobody should tell him that..
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I need to move close to Fred after all suspect we are both curmudgeons to some degree and say that with great care and understanding. but want his coal guy that 2.5 tons is close to 6 LOLLightning wrote:We had this figured out on another thread somewhere. He admitted that the coal guy doesn't measure his coal precisely, or something to that effect.. I think it's reasonable that he's burning close to 6 tons but nobody should tell him that..
- freetown fred
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Actually, it 3 to 3.5 ton yearly use & my coal guy is not an idiot. My lil over 4X4X4 3 bins get filled --2 level & 1 just a tad shy. My nut/stove mix does not pack tight nor nut alone--soooo, I seriously question the 1.6 ton that the brainiacs keep coming up with
- Lightning
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Yep.. that seals the deal Fred.. Yer busted..freetown fred wrote:Actually, it 3 to 3.5 ton yearly use & my coal guy is not an idiot. My lil over 4X4X4 3 bins get filled --2 level & 1 just a tad shy. My nut/stove mix does not pack tight nor nut alone--soooo, I seriously question the 1.6 ton that the brainiacs keep coming up with
That is well over 5 tons.. For real
- lsayre
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Wait a minute. Fred can have 5-1/3 tons of storage, and have it nearly all filled with coal, but still only burn 3 to 3.5 tons per year.Lightning wrote:Yep.. that seals the deal Fred.. Yer busted..
That is well over 5 tons.. For real
- freetown fred
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Got 2/3 of a full bin left & 12 5gal. buckets filled by the stove--using around 40 lb per day:) You're good Larry
- Lightning
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My lil over 4X4X4 3 bins get filled --2 level & 1 just a tad shy.
Yes he has a good point ol boy..freetown fred wrote:Got 2/3 of a full bin left & 12 5gal. buckets filled by the stove--using around 40 lb per day:) You're good Larry
But - started with
64+64+54 (tad shy of full?) = 182 cu ft / 34 per ton = 5.35 tons
currently have -
43 (2/3 full bin) + 8.5 (12 buckets) = 51.5 cu ft / 34 per ton = 1.5 tons
You've used 3.8 tons so far,
which is a conservative figure since the coal could be closer to 32-33 cu ft per ton.
Just tryin to help Fred...
Ouch my foot!!
- freetown fred
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Nope, the 3rd bin was only filled 2/3 to begin with--ya ever hear--"if ya can't dazzle em with your brilliance, baffle em with your bullshit" I reiterate--you guys are whacko & I'm actually sane
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Give it up guys. Fred's only got one good foot and he's still kickin' butt !
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