Box Stove to Base Heater Conversion Adventure
- Sunny Boy
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- Location: Central NY
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
- Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
- Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
- Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
Thanks for including us in your proof-of-concept experiments. I really enjoyed see all that, "what if" come to reality. It shows that modern stoves can be improved using old technology.
Like the old saying goes, There's nothing new under the Sun."
Paul
Like the old saying goes, There's nothing new under the Sun."
Paul
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- Location: Elkhart county, IN.
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: 1 comforter stove works all iron coal box stove, seventies.
- Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner, GW #6, GW 113 formerly Sir Williams, maybe others at Pauliewog’s I’ve forgotten about
- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
well... after being miserable for a week of yo-yo weather and rain I relit FRANK yesterday afternoon to ward off this weeks nasty wet cold nights and cloudiness that will keep me from getting any solar gain during the days.
the house was wonderfully warm and DRY feeling all night and the wife assures me of more of the same today.
I LOVE summer and winter but I despise spring and fall. guess I should just move to Alaska and get it over with.
steve
the house was wonderfully warm and DRY feeling all night and the wife assures me of more of the same today.
I LOVE summer and winter but I despise spring and fall. guess I should just move to Alaska and get it over with.
steve
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- Location: Elkhart county, IN.
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: 1 comforter stove works all iron coal box stove, seventies.
- Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner, GW #6, GW 113 formerly Sir Williams, maybe others at Pauliewog’s I’ve forgotten about
- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
well we've had a very nice fall but it's over now, 30's for highs and snow showers blowing around.
Frank got a new back pipe and went on duty this week. so nice to go down stairs if I wake up in the middle of the night and just sit in front of that beam of peach colored light filling the room and watch the blue ladies do the hula for a while.
every body stay warm and safe, check your C/O detectors
steve
Frank got a new back pipe and went on duty this week. so nice to go down stairs if I wake up in the middle of the night and just sit in front of that beam of peach colored light filling the room and watch the blue ladies do the hula for a while.
every body stay warm and safe, check your C/O detectors
steve
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- Location: Elkhart county, IN.
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: 1 comforter stove works all iron coal box stove, seventies.
- Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner, GW #6, GW 113 formerly Sir Williams, maybe others at Pauliewog’s I’ve forgotten about
- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
pretty sure i am, just a matter of meshing several schedules.
it's been a very busy off season for many of us and with 600ish miles between a couple of us it takes real focus to pull a road trip together.
but, as followers of the forum will know i have no shortage of stoves here already
it's been a very busy off season for many of us and with 600ish miles between a couple of us it takes real focus to pull a road trip together.
but, as followers of the forum will know i have no shortage of stoves here already
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- Location: Elkhart county, IN.
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: 1 comforter stove works all iron coal box stove, seventies.
- Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner, GW #6, GW 113 formerly Sir Williams, maybe others at Pauliewog’s I’ve forgotten about
- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
Still really pleased with FRANK for heat and esp ease of use
2 hours to go from dead out to hopper in and full no smoked up window or back puffing ever
Set the bi metal to desired heat and wait 12 hours. Open hopper refill top 1/2 bucket of coal, shake ashes, refill hopper with rest of bucket of coal and wait 12 hours
No going from base mode to direct and back, no opening more dampers and closing again, no opening primary air (bi metal) and closing again
Just fill and shake twice a day, total of 5 mins. each and take out ash twice a week
When I get my #6 it’s going to get a bi metal primary air control system. I have 2 set ups in the modeling stage. One is very steam punk the other very simple like the Hitzer and DS units
2 hours to go from dead out to hopper in and full no smoked up window or back puffing ever
Set the bi metal to desired heat and wait 12 hours. Open hopper refill top 1/2 bucket of coal, shake ashes, refill hopper with rest of bucket of coal and wait 12 hours
No going from base mode to direct and back, no opening more dampers and closing again, no opening primary air (bi metal) and closing again
Just fill and shake twice a day, total of 5 mins. each and take out ash twice a week
When I get my #6 it’s going to get a bi metal primary air control system. I have 2 set ups in the modeling stage. One is very steam punk the other very simple like the Hitzer and DS units
- Sunny Boy
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- Joined: Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 1:40 pm
- Location: Central NY
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
- Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
- Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
- Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
I'm looking forward to see how you bi-metal a GW #6.
Will there be a magazine in the future for this one ?
Paul
Will there be a magazine in the future for this one ?
Paul
- mntbugy
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- Hand Fed Coal Stove: D S 1500, Warm Moring 400
- Baseburners & Antiques: Art Garland 145,GW114 ,Clarion 115, Vestal 20 Globe,New Royal22 Globe, Red Cross Oak 56,Acme Ventiduct 38,Radiant Airblast 626,Home Airblast 62,Moores #7,Moores 3way
- Coal Size/Type: stove and nut and some bit
- Other Heating: Propain
I don't do any of that antique or box stove.
Just shake & bake. Adjustment only when needed.
Just shake & bake. Adjustment only when needed.
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- Location: Elkhart county, IN.
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: 1 comforter stove works all iron coal box stove, seventies.
- Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner, GW #6, GW 113 formerly Sir Williams, maybe others at Pauliewog’s I’ve forgotten about
- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
Yes on the mag though I’m perfectly fine using a stove pipe stand in till one is available I will never use a hand fired without hopper or mag again
For me it’s the same level of improvement as going from burning wood to coal
I’m sure there won’t be another #6 like it anywhere
Is that a good thing ? Time will tell
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- Other Heating: electric, wood, oil
Oh man...that #6 should be interesting. My memory fails me...Frank is your converted square stove?
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Duh!!!! I just clicked the notifications tab without even reading where the replies were from...that lead me straight to here and me posting. Never even considered to look above at the thread title. LOL!!! Oh gosh...I don't feel like re-reading all of this. Hey Steve, what page does all the good stuff start on...the pictures? LOL! I'm feeling lazy this morning. Joking...
...however it is hard to read a thread that's been going on for years. Takes years for me to read it all. The bad part is...after re-reading I then discover I've already read it all...some threads I've read 3-4 times...but can't remember. I take ginko biloba to help my memory, but for the life of me I can't recall where I put it. LOL!!!
EDIT:
Duh!!!! I just clicked the notifications tab without even reading where the replies were from...that lead me straight to here and me posting. Never even considered to look above at the thread title. LOL!!! Oh gosh...I don't feel like re-reading all of this. Hey Steve, what page does all the good stuff start on...the pictures? LOL! I'm feeling lazy this morning. Joking...
...however it is hard to read a thread that's been going on for years. Takes years for me to read it all. The bad part is...after re-reading I then discover I've already read it all...some threads I've read 3-4 times...but can't remember. I take ginko biloba to help my memory, but for the life of me I can't recall where I put it. LOL!!!
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- Posts: 4837
- Joined: Wed. Apr. 03, 2013 1:24 pm
- Location: Elkhart county, IN.
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: 1 comforter stove works all iron coal box stove, seventies.
- Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner, GW #6, GW 113 formerly Sir Williams, maybe others at Pauliewog’s I’ve forgotten about
- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
I don't think anything really happened till page 11-12 but I cant remember either
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- Hand Fed Coal Stove: 1 comforter stove works all iron coal box stove, seventies.
- Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner, GW #6, GW 113 formerly Sir Williams, maybe others at Pauliewog’s I’ve forgotten about
- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
page 9 gets into the layout and welding of the base chamber so pretty much from there on.
- Sunny Boy
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- Location: Central NY
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
- Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
- Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
- Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace
Steve,
I understand your want of a magazine. I'm lovin' how easy it makes refueling with my #6.
There's been quite a few new GW #6, #8, and 116 Oak owners have showed up since the recast magazine project was run a few years ago. You need to start bugging Paulie to stop running all over the country for new stoves and get back on that magazine project.
Maybe then I can get my loaner mag back ?
Paul
I understand your want of a magazine. I'm lovin' how easy it makes refueling with my #6.
There's been quite a few new GW #6, #8, and 116 Oak owners have showed up since the recast magazine project was run a few years ago. You need to start bugging Paulie to stop running all over the country for new stoves and get back on that magazine project.
Maybe then I can get my loaner mag back ?
Paul
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- Hand Fed Coal Stove: 1 comforter stove works all iron coal box stove, seventies.
- Baseburners & Antiques: 2014 DTS C17 Base Burner, GW #6, GW 113 formerly Sir Williams, maybe others at Pauliewog’s I’ve forgotten about
- Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
- Other Heating: none
HAHA, if it was just stove buying Paulie would have lots of spare time. I don't even need a real mag I can make one out of stove pipe that will last a season and replace as needed.
truth of the matter is the man works more on all kinds of things at all kinds of night and day than all of the seven dwarfs combined, and not just minor short hours odds and ends but BIG rigging projects like.....
move a full industrial shop from one location to another including disassemble and move the blast furnace and reassemble at the new place etc etc etc
the only guy I know who has retired 3-4 times and is still working like the mad hatter to establish his next private business, Paulie's Stove Rescue. there are few of us here with his vision, stamina and heart of gold
one day it will gel and we will all be the beneficiaries
truth of the matter is the man works more on all kinds of things at all kinds of night and day than all of the seven dwarfs combined, and not just minor short hours odds and ends but BIG rigging projects like.....
move a full industrial shop from one location to another including disassemble and move the blast furnace and reassemble at the new place etc etc etc
the only guy I know who has retired 3-4 times and is still working like the mad hatter to establish his next private business, Paulie's Stove Rescue. there are few of us here with his vision, stamina and heart of gold
one day it will gel and we will all be the beneficiaries