Hitzer 983 Fan Not Working

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Bobbi
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 983 insert
Coal Size/Type: blashak nut
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer 983
Stove/Furnace Model: 983 insert
Location: Western PA

Post Mon. Mar. 31, 2014 8:37 pm

Could someone please tell me how to replace a R fan on my insert. Should I replace them both at the same time ? I have been running one fan since it was the end of my coal season, and now that it is out I need to fix it. The one on the L was making noise, but the one on the R stopped spinning. Although the L one still occasionally makes a noise. Which fan motor to get ? I saw discussion about bushings vs. ball bearings ????? Was there a place I should of been oiling the motor each season ? ANY info/help would be appreciated.

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Beeman
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Post Tue. Apr. 01, 2014 5:00 am

Why not pop in two new fans and be set for next year? Not hard to replace with basic mechanical skills. Get them from local dealer (where do you live?) or directly from Hitzer. Good luck.

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Post Tue. Apr. 01, 2014 6:59 am

Bobbi, did you buy the insert new?? When?? YES, replace both. Check with your dealer where you got it if applicable. If newish, If you bought it new or not---I would call Dean at HITZER & explain your situation--260-589-8536--these people are real good with customer service. Fred
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Post Wed. Apr. 02, 2014 12:40 am

If you have a Grainger's in your area or somewhat reasonable distance you can save some dollars.
This is only my two cents
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Bobbi
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Post Thu. Apr. 03, 2014 1:16 am

No, I bought it used. Was just wondering what brand/model to buy.??

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Beeman
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Post Thu. Apr. 03, 2014 5:26 am

I say just get from Hitzer or their product from local dealer. No need to reinvent the wheel or fit in some other product. Good luck.

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Post Thu. Apr. 03, 2014 6:06 am

Ditto what fred said...
I am not an engineer, train or otherwise!
I stay at a Holiday Inn at least once a year!
Most of all I do have common sense and a practical application of logic.
Oh, add humor, on the dry side, along with a wee bit 'o sarcasm.

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Post Sat. Apr. 05, 2014 10:13 am

And, look where the oiling points are on the old ones and the new ones. Fans on inserts run hotter because of the trapped heat around the stove. So they need more frequent lubrication, at least in my opinion they do.
So figure out where they need oiling, and make up an oiling can so you can get to the bearings while the stove is in use. I've bought some oil cans with extra long spouts so they will reach way back to the back of hard to reach areas.

Greg L
Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
Running an Axeman-Anderson 260M boiler burning Pea, About 150-250#per day
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Post Mon. Apr. 07, 2014 9:59 am

Do as Fred said, call Hitzer, they can direct you to the closest dealer who will sell you THE CORRECT motor,not some "will fit " motor from some motor wholesaler looking for more sales. Deal with someone who cares about selling you the correct part for your unit so the product will continue to do a satisfactory job for you.
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Post Mon. Apr. 07, 2014 10:58 am

And, save the old motors.

If the stove is used, the previous owner may have used the wrong lubricant, or none. However, you may be able to revive them. I've rescued many old ball bearings in motors and tools by carefully re-oiling them with the correct oil for their application. In fact, I just stopped a screeching bearing in my 30 year old high-speed hand grinder last week. Bearing was dry, but not worn to the point of needing replacing.

Don't use motor oil in ball bearings. Some of the additives, especially detergents in it, can get gummy with age and heat.

Ask the Hitzer factory rep what oil they recommend to use for that application. If they don't know of any, then use air compressor oil. If they do recommend an oil, only use that one.

To re-oil sealed bearings, using a point of a knife, or needle, carefully lift up the outer edge of the rubber side seals on the ball bearings. Drip fresh oil onto that slight gap and it will naturally wick into the bearing. Spin the bearing by hand so that fresh oil will loosen and help flush out old gummy oil.

Working fresh oil into the bearings, you may find that the used motors start working again like new. In which case you can put that motor back into service, or if your not comfortable relying on it, at least keep it as backup to a new motor, . . just in case.

Paul
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Post Sat. May. 10, 2014 9:23 pm

If you still need the blowers for the 983, shoot me a PM.

I have a bunch in stock and would be happy to ship them to you.

Should also check the blower wiring. We've found that sometimes the wires get shaken around, and melt up against the side of the firebox causing the blowers to short out.
Steve Krieger (The Coal Shop, Inc.)
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