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Post by rocky » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 11:31 am

freetown fred wrote:R, have you loo5050-9335f ed at the HITZER 30-95? How broke up is your house as far as getting heat where you need it?
House is fairly open. I can leave the stove room, walk through the house and end up back in the stove room.

I'm just thinking now that I'm heating this joint with a 24"x20" steel box that weighs about 430 pounds and running at an average temp of 420 degrees. Couldn't I expect the same resultes out of a simular sized box wether heating it with wood or coal?

That being said, knowing now that the 50-93 can be idled down well eases my mind alot. Plus it should have plenty on reserve for even the coldest days.

Like I said, I know I'm just over thinking things.


 
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Post by Carbon12 » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 11:36 am

Yup, easy to overthink. Get the stove, hook her up and light her off. The Forum will be happy to teach you how to manage the stove. Get a manometer and 2 or 3 stick on stove thermometers at the same time you get your stove. It'll make dialing her in much easier. :D

 
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Post by titleist1 » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 11:40 am

Carbon12 wrote:Get a manometer and 2 or 3 stick on stove thermometers at the same time you get your stove.
plus a couple of CO monitors if you don't already have them....

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 11:41 am

Don't forget the CO detectors. :) beat ne too it^^^^ lol

 
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Post by rocky » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 11:46 am

Sorry for the choppy replies. By the time I answere one post I see two more. Was not expecting so much help so quick! I do have plenty of storage space for coal. I am using an insulated double wall chimney 14' straight up from top of stove. We heated with an electric furnace prior to wood and there are 4 of us, two female so no amount of hot water would ever be enough!

 
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Post by Carbon12 » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 11:48 am

Thanks for covering my back, guys! I meant to mention that. Multiple CO detectors is not optional either. :D

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 11:53 am

rocky wrote:Sorry for the choppy replies. By the time I answere one post I see two more. Was not expecting so much help so quick! I do have plenty of storage space for coal. I am using an insulated double wall chimney 14' straight up from top of stove. We heated with an electric furnace prior to wood and there are 4 of us, two female so no amount of hot water would ever be enough!
Things happen fast around here when someone needs help. I'm still learning, only been burning coal for a few years, so when I see someone new post a question I'll start off the conversation quickly until the experienced Anthracite guys arrive. I have only burned Bituminous. :)

They are the same but different :confused: :)


 
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Post by rocky » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 12:03 pm

Thanks guys for bringing me back "again". I'm going to be running my wood stove the rest of the winter but as soon as I can afford it I believe I will go out and get the 50-93 before I have another spell lol.

And don't worry about the co detectors, I have a family to take care of.

Again, thanks

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 12:06 pm

HB ,did you think up all those questions :?: :shock: WOW,what an impressive list :!: Are you sure you asked all of the questions ?/ :)

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 12:12 pm

R, 30-95 is rated to heat 2000 sq. YES, I'm a firm believer in over-kill but I think with your 1500 basically open house, it's something you might want to check out--I'm heating over 2000 sq with my 50-93--drafty old farm house tightened up as much as you can w/ post & beam--I'm seeing suggestions of reducing fire box size, or idling way down--the reason HITZER designed different size stoves was to accommodate different size houses/needs without going through all that. It's best to run a stove hot then to constantly idle down--it prevents ash build up, less draw needed, etc, etc--just an old farmers thoughts:) WH, RB has them zeroxed next to his computer & YEP I think he covered most all of them thar questions--them thar line tramps are pretty thorough--keeps em alive ;)

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 12:17 pm

Most of the time I forget what questions to ask,was impressed with his list .

 
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Post by Hambden Bob » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 12:39 pm

Windy,Yes,But Wait!!......Ol' HB was a Complete WeenBag by not asking Rocky if He Had CO Detectors ! ! I sure Clown-Car'd That One Right In The Old Caboose!! Thanx for the CO Coverage,Gang! Rocky,Thanx for your CO Detector Reply! Love That Takin' Care Of That Family Stuff ! Yes,Rocky,The Fine Folks Of The Coal Board Actually Do Care And Haul Out the Help When Asked For!! :up:

 
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Post by oliver power » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 1:15 pm

50-93 or 30-95???? With the stove up in the living quarters, either one will heat your place. If the stove is going in the basement, get the 50-93. They will both idle down nicely. Fan is noisier on the 30-95, as it has one squirrel cage blower fan. Fan noise of 50-93 is quieter, as it has a smaller in diameter, dual squirrel cage fan. You'll want to make sure you tend the 30-95 every 12 hours max. Yes, it may go a little longer, maybe 14 hours, depending on house. You'll want to also tend the 50-93 every 12 hours min. The 50-93 will go out 18+ hours no problem, as it holds more coal. Either way, both stoves should be on a 12 hour tending schedule.

 
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Post by Cap » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 6:55 pm

Hey Rocky, if you have good basement access to load coal, install your unit in the basement, go with the larger unit. When you heat the foundation, you will have a much more comfortable home. Besides the hand fired coal stove creates more ash than wood and can be little dusty when shaking and removing ash.

If you decide to go upstairs, go with the small unit.

Always size your heating equipment to work its hardest on the coldest day of the year!

 
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Post by rocky » Sun. Mar. 02, 2014 7:26 pm

Can't do a basement install, I ain't got no basement. Single level, stove will be in the living room. I'm a little worried about the dust but the wood can be messy to.


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