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Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
syclone381
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Not sure of the make or model (trying to find out)

Post Sun. Apr. 06, 2014 10:41 am

packard bill wrote:It looks as if your house was originally fitted with a gravity hot water system. With a few check valves you should be able to tie right in the system. Forced hot water systems did not appear until the advent of stoker, for quick recovery. If you decide you need a pump, I'd recommend one of the little 3 speed pumps from B&G, or Grundfos. Use the lowest speed. Otherwise you'll need to install a bypass loop. I do think you'll be alright as a gravity system since I think it was originally set up as one. Have your return split in two so one half return water goes into one side of boiler and the other half of the return water goes into the other side.
If you're using a oil-fired forced water boiler, you're heating a tremendous amount of water due to the size of your supply and return mains (from an old gravity system), you caan still use the oil fired for backup if the gravity system isn't enough when it's zero degrees out.
You'll be regulating the house temperature with the water temp. so when it's warmer out, you'll cut back on the water temp in the boiler.
I would insulate and skin the boiler with sheet meatal to keep the heat in the boiler, unless you want to heat the basement as well. Hope I offered some help. Good luck. PB
Thanks a lot for your reply. Quick questions, where would I need to add check valves and whats the purpose of them? There isn't any in the system that I see at this point.
I think my plan is to shut the oil boiler off and shut the water flow off to it unless I need it to help during very cold nights. I'm going to have to wait to finish this system in the warmer months because there is a few connections I can't get apart and one ball shut off that won't shut off. Guess I'm going to have to drain the whole system this summer.

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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Not sure of the make or model (trying to find out)

Post Sun. Oct. 19, 2014 11:16 pm

I just wanted to share with everyone my set up so far. I have been crazy busy at work this summer and ended up being crunch time getting the stove hooked up. I have everything plumbed and ready to fire. All I need is a piece of insulation that goes on the inside of the door on the fire box. Once I get that I'll be adding fire. Here is a few picture. I added 2 places on the cold water returns with unions so I could add circulation pumps if need but I'm giving the gravity method a try first. Can anyone give me water temp max and PSI max for this system so I can monitor them during my first fire. The oil boiler is set around 18 PSI right now.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant Casting 2310
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.
Location: Girardville Pa.

Post Mon. Oct. 20, 2014 5:33 am

This beast will work just like any other HW boiler. Max pressure 30 PSI operating temp 160-180 max temp 200
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404
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Post Mon. Oct. 20, 2014 8:42 am

I think you will find with a gravity system that the water temperature will be fairly low as it is continuous and not in short bursts. 180 would probably drive you out of the house on the coldest days of winter. I doubt if most times will make all that much hot water for dishes and baths if boiler is 120-135.

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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Not sure of the make or model (trying to find out)

Post Mon. Oct. 20, 2014 9:45 pm

blrman07 wrote:This beast will work just like any other HW boiler. Max pressure 30 PSI operating temp 160-180 max temp 200
Thanks a lot. I was guessing to should be the same but wanted to make sure.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek
Location: Junction of PA-OH-WV

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