Cookin' With Coal

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sat. Feb. 04, 2023 8:05 pm

D.lapan wrote:
Sat. Feb. 04, 2023 7:56 pm
Yesterday afternoon, we lost the internet and then power 28 hours later, back on line.

Luckily we don't rely on much to get by, my combination of Glenwood work horses the newest being 120 years old, and the oldest pushing 130-135, kept the house at a balmy 71* while the outdoor temps hit -21 here with 40 mph winds.

They used a total of 2 bags or 80 lbs of nut coal in the last 48 hours, so about $20, that's really not much more than an average 30* stretch.

This just goes to show these old stoves were built for this kind of weather and are not just for show or the occasional meal.

While we were left free of modern technology and the oven was already hot I opened a 1890s cookbook and tried put a few old recipes, one being called Indian pudding (milk, molasses, corn meal) and another called caramel custard (basically boil a can of condensed milk for 3.5 hours and serve with whip cream)

I'm sure they were a treat in the 1890s, Being a fan of old, not so sweet deserts, I thought they were good enough with some home made whipped cream on top, but my kids not so much
:lol: Been there.

There was a late 1800's cookbook in a wooden crate up in the attic when I bought this place. I thought great,.... until I started reading some of the recipes,.... and then thought,.. what ? Oh yeah, these were the people that gave cocaine to babies and put it in coke cola. And they came up with fancy names for parts of critters to eat that we wouldn't want to hit with our car. :o

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Post by Hoytman » Sat. Feb. 04, 2023 9:53 pm

Is the oven temperature controlled by the bypass or oven diverter lever? I mean is it either opened full or closed full? Seems like they would be adjustable levers in order to adjust oven temps…which also could help with draft depending on how you set it, right? Or am I way off?

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Feb. 05, 2023 2:09 am

The oven damper feeding heat to the oven on most ranges is the flip-flap type - either on or off. The inner most side of the firebox shares a wall with the oven, so never fully off.

I think there are some dampers that work like a slide damper and may be adjusted for how open they are. Dana may know more.

Some Glenwoods had a sliding oven shelf sitting on ramps that would raise up as you slid it to the right to help adjust the oven temp. You'd open the oven door a bit and slide the shelf to jam against the underside of the door holding it in that position and let heat leak out to lower the oven temp. Wilson had one of these when I was there.

BTW, all these questions were covered already. :D

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Post by Hoytman » Sun. Feb. 05, 2023 12:21 pm

Paul, thanks for clarification.

I understand all of that being covered, but when a question comes up the response is always go back to this thread. I understand you like people coming to this thread. People are forgetful don’t want to re-read a topic 200+ pages all the time…just like they’re lazy about wanting to read all the Covid thread before responding…so we keep answering…don’t we.

I think nearly every topic that could be questioned on coal and coal stoves is somewhere “back-in-time” on this forum somewhere. Maybe we all should just resort to the search function.

 
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Post by Hoytman » Sun. Feb. 05, 2023 12:22 pm

I fixed it for you.
Sunny Boy wrote:
Sun. Feb. 05, 2023 2:09 am
The oven damper feeding heat to the oven on most ranges is the flip-flap type - either on or off. The inner most side of the firebox shares a wall with the oven, so never fully off.

I think there are some dampers that work like a slide damper and may be adjusted for how open they are. Dana may know more.

Some Glenwoods had a sliding oven shelf sitting on ramps that would raise up as you slid it to the right to help adjust the oven temp. You'd open the oven door a bit and slide the shelf to jam against the underside of the door holding it in that position and let heat leak out to lower the oven temp. Wilson had one of these when I was there.


Paul

 
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Post by Hoytman » Sun. Feb. 05, 2023 12:23 pm

Hoytman wrote:
Sun. Feb. 05, 2023 12:21 pm
Paul, thanks for clarification.

 
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Post by Hoytman » Sun. Feb. 05, 2023 12:24 pm

Had to do that… :lol: :lol:
It’s all good. :yes:


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Feb. 05, 2023 12:49 pm

Hoytman wrote:
Sun. Feb. 05, 2023 12:21 pm
Paul, thanks for clarification.

I understand all of that being covered, but when a question comes up the response is always go back to this thread. I understand you like people coming to this thread. People are forgetful don’t want to re-read a topic 200+ pages all the time…just like they’re lazy about wanting to read all the Covid thread before responding…so we keep answering…don’t we.

I think nearly every topic that could be questioned on coal and coal stoves is somewhere “back-in-time” on this forum somewhere. Maybe we all should just resort to the search function.
Yeah, more people using the search function would great.

Don't take this the wrong way.
I don't mind helping, but the same questions come up over and over and when told where all the answers are I often get, "But I don't want to read 200 pages.". Well, I've got to start saying that if they don't want to read, then why are they on a forum ? :lol:

I can only type with one finger that is on a hand that is 71 years old and arthritic. Plus, as many here know, I'm not a writer. :roll: Forming understandable answers does not come easy to me. I have to rewrite a lot before posting. Even the slowest reader can read far faster than I can answer their questions.

So, I have to think that if someone is too lazy to read what a lot of people have put a lot of effort into, then I doubt they are up to the challenge of operating a stove with up to 6 dampers that they'd have to learn how to use.

Paul

 
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Post by Hoytman » Sun. Feb. 05, 2023 1:42 pm

I guess I’m not up to it…

…but I answer questions here all day long…even ask some.

I understand what you said though. Typing with one finger is tough, the way I used to be. I’m younger, but I still understand all about old Aurthur and folks your age. I deal with him too, just not in my hands yet. I get it, I do. I also write and erase, write and erase.

No one squeezes our head forcing us to reply. It’s a choice.

You…not a writer? Ha! That’s like me saying I’m not a writer. Both of us have hit the k-1 and Covid threads pretty hard to say that. So c’mon now. You ain’t kidding no one. :lol:

 
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Post by Wren » Mon. Feb. 06, 2023 1:47 pm

Yesss. Have to appreciate Sunny's and everyone's input and patience.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 10:45 am

W, where the hell have you been??????????????????? ;)

 
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Post by Wren » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 9:00 pm

Benched for burning wood. But I lurk and skulk and have been reading this thread from page one. I'll be ready when I can get coal again. Coal pail is a safe/sane place to hang out. I miss coal and swear a lot.

 
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Post by D.lapan » Sun. Apr. 02, 2023 9:19 am

A few weeks ago I decided to switch out stoves in my kitchen for prob my favorite styling glenwood.

This is a Glenwood E #8, so it's a first model with 8" lids this was made back when Glenwood only offered 3 cook stoves, the grand, the B and the E, they also offered the E as a hardware store brand under the name Elmwood.
While a manufacturer date will never be known, it has patten dates from 1879 up to 1887, it pre dates nickel trim rails and oven gauges and was replaced by the 108 in 1890 from what I can tell in my parts catalogs
Originally I had a stationary wood grate for it and original iron liners but I discovered the 308 E plain coal grate drops in, the only modifications needed was the shaft for shaking needed to be shortened about 4".
I've used many stoves in my own kitchen and my camp (one perk of having over 300) and so far this one burns wood much better than any of the others and with coal is just as good as the 408E I had with triangular grates, I think it proves weir stove had it figured out very early on

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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Apr. 02, 2023 10:45 am

That's a real beauty, Dana. :yes:

I notice it has the sliding oven shelf to hold the door open various amounts to help regulate oven temps. I didn't know that was available so early on. And handy for very cold nights to extract a bit more heat before it goes up the chimney. I use a wooden wedge under the door with my non-adjustable shelf.

Do you have a waterfront plumbed into that copper hot water tank behind the firebox ?

Paul


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