Cookin' With Coal

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Nov. 30, 2017 5:03 pm

archangel_cpj wrote:
Thu. Nov. 30, 2017 12:57 pm
found the idea in a 120 plus year old periodical I read online many years ago... Its super easy put stove in direct draft, open MPD, pill lids and T, throw on grill, and cover with long cake pan... Ive grilled 20 minutes plus before no smoke in house and fire fine... 6 PM when its 10 degrees out The whole place smells like a summer BBQ probably throws the neighbors... This way I can grill for company pretty easy and it is fin to see the look on their face when I set it up...
If you happen to come across that periodical again, please post a link to it.

Finding any literature on operating 100+ year old ranges is tough.

I have a large hardcover cook book from the late 1800's, that in the front of the book says that there's a section on stove operation and maintenance,.... but there's no such section and no missing pages. :cry:

Now I gotta go see if I have any baking pans big enough to cover the firebox round covers. ;)

Paul


 
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Post by Photog200 » Thu. Dec. 14, 2017 8:35 am

Its been a while since I posted anything here so this is a quick update. Last week, I got the range switched over to burn coal again (I burn wood in the shoulder months) This past Spring, I had to take out the hammered in liners as they were getting damaged and had loosened over time. This time I decided to use standard fire bricks and cut them to size. Installation was easier than I anticipated and was happy with the results. On the left hand side of the firebox, I had to cement the bricks to the cast iron liner which made the bricks lean in slightly at the bottom, making the bottom narrower than the top. (important for later description of operations). After letting the cement air dry for 24 hrs, I lit a charcoal fire and kept the temps at about 250℉ for about 6 hrs. Now it was time to give it a test run and it was obvious that I had air bypassing the grates somewhere. I got those spots addressed and now another attempt. Success! I cannot scientifically explain what the difference is between the hammered in liner as opposed to the firebrick but there is a big difference. Now I can dampen down the fire a lot easier and can maintain the fire better over night. Also, the reloading time has been cut in half. Another difference is because of that narrowing of the firebox at the bottom, I believe I am getting a little bit more bridging. That is allowing me to give a 180º rotation of my Dockash style grate. I was not able to do that with the previous setup as it would dump the coals as soon as the grate hit the vertical apex. This is making my reload and ash clearing SOOOOO much easier and cleaner.

In celebration of going back to burning coal I decided to cook one of Paul & Melissa's recipe's last night...well it was my version of it. I added Habanero and Jalepeno's. I also added a jar of my home canned chicken to the rice. Then I put the chicken thighs on top. Thanks for this quick but delicious recipe. See photos below.

Randy

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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Dec. 14, 2017 10:44 am

Nicely done, Randy.

My impression of modern firebricks is, because they have lots of tiny airspaces in them they would insulate better than the same thickness of ramset refractory, castable refractory, or the original fireclay cast firebricks. So, if they are holding more heat in the firebed, that is likely part of why you can run the range slower and longer. And being able to more thoroughly clear ash also contributes to that better running by allowing more usable fuel in the firebed at each tending.

As always, your cookin' looks wonderful. I'm sure it tastes wonderful, too.

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Post by Photog200 » Thu. Dec. 14, 2017 1:01 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
Thu. Dec. 14, 2017 10:44 am
Nicely done, Randy.

My impression of modern firebricks is, because they have lots of tiny airspaces in them they would insulate better than the same thickness of ramset refractory, castable refractory, or the original fireclay cast firebricks. So, if they are holding more heat in the firebed, that is likely part of why you can run the range slower and longer. And being able to more thoroughly clear ash also contributes to that better running by allowing more usable fuel in the firebed at each tending.

As always, your cookin' looks wonderful. I'm sure it tastes wonderful, too.

Paul
Those were my thoughts as well Paul, it sure does make it more enjoyable to operate the stove now too.

Thank you,
Randy

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Dec. 14, 2017 2:43 pm

Photog200 wrote:
Thu. Dec. 14, 2017 1:01 pm
Those were my thoughts as well Paul, it sure does make it more enjoyable to operate the stove now too.

Thank you,
Randy


Happiness is a range that is not only beautiful, it works well, too !!!! ;)

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Post by michaelanthony » Fri. Dec. 15, 2017 4:05 pm

Randy, that chicken looks amazing, how about some sweet potatoes to go with it!...boy I miss cookin' with coal. Coffee in the background staying nice and warm too.

edit: I'm sorry for the mix up guys...I was starving!
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Dec. 15, 2017 7:12 pm

michaelanthony wrote:
Fri. Dec. 15, 2017 4:05 pm
Paul that chicken looks amazing, how about some sweet potatoes to go with it!...boy I miss cookin' with coal. Coffee in the background staying nice and warm too.
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Randy knows how to take a good recipe and make it better !

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Post by michaelanthony » Fri. Dec. 15, 2017 7:28 pm

I had some left over bbq leg quarters hmm..hmm good!
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I corrected my previous post...sorry for the confusion.

 
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Post by Photog200 » Fri. Dec. 15, 2017 7:29 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
Fri. Dec. 15, 2017 7:12 pm
Randy knows how to take a good recipe and make it better !

Paul
I don't know about making it better, but I like spicy food. This recipe is a good use of some of my pantry items and it is quick and easy to put together. Thank you Melissa! :D

Randy

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 12:31 am

Melissa is flattered, and says to send her thanks.

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Post by D.lapan » Sat. Dec. 30, 2017 12:57 pm

Hey guys, been a few months since I have been on busiest fall I’ve ever had..
Drove to town this morning and had a urge for some prime rib, so I bought a 4 lb chunk thought I would give it a try in the ol fairy 3 hours in and it looks good...

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Post by Sunny Boy » Sat. Dec. 30, 2017 2:06 pm

Welcome back, D.

It certainly does look good.

And I see your Crawford has oven vent holes into the exhaust flue in the upper back right corner, like my Glenwood. Good for keeping the oven vented and clean. We're well into our thirteenth season with lots of baking done and still no need to clean the oven. While I miss the smell of baking goodies that those vents remove, it's a small price to pay for not having to scrub the inside of an oven. ;)

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Post by D.lapan » Sat. Dec. 30, 2017 4:54 pm

Yes I love the vented oven, we bake bacon in there to keep the smell down, but with this roast I’ve have had to leave the oven door cracked to keep the temp down around 250 so the whole house smells awesome lol
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Dec. 31, 2017 12:18 pm

Yeah, keeping the oven door ajar was a common way of regulating oven temp on many early kitchen stoves. I'm always surprised at how little an opening is needed to drop the temps inside the oven.

Some Glenwoods had a patented sliding oven door shelf that was on shallow ramps. You'd set the door as open as you wanted and then slide the shelf sideways on it's ramps to jam up against and hold the door. Wilson had one of those that he showed me how it works when I was there.

Some ovens had an extra damper and flue down near the bottom of the range that fed air to the oven to help fine-tune the baking temps while keeping the oven door closed so that it still vents the baking smells and moisture into the stove pipe.

Mine's not that fancy...... just a wooden wedge that I put between the oven door and shelf. :D

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Post by michaelanthony » Sun. Dec. 31, 2017 12:25 pm

D.lapan wrote:
Sat. Dec. 30, 2017 4:54 pm
Yes I love the vented oven, we bake bacon in there to keep the smell down, but with this roast I’ve have had to leave the oven door cracked to keep the temp down around 250 so the whole house smells awesome lol
Dana
Dam that roast looked awesome...almost bit the screen :lol:


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