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Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 7:37 am
by shoman70
hi, I am getting a ds 1600 free standing coal stove in a few days. the stove measures height is 35/14, width is 29, depth is 30 1/2 inches. the width of my hearth is fine, height is fine as well. I am concerned with the depth of stove. my hearth is 44 inches deep from back wall. not sure that is enough space in the front of the stove. this is the old stove in place in the picture. new ds 1600 stove is bigger of course.any thoughts would be great.

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 7:41 am
by dcrane
the old rule of thumb is 18" from the front of stove to nearest combustible (your carpeting)... I never liked carpet around a stove (so you want to be extra careful here)

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 8:45 am
by shoman70
oh that's not good, 44 inches total space on hearth ( front to back) that would not be enough clearance since stove iss 30 1/2 deep. looks like I may not be getting this stove.

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 9:31 am
by franco b
shoman70 wrote:oh that's not good, 44 inches total space on hearth ( front to back) that would not be enough clearance since stove iss 30 1/2 deep. looks like I may not be getting this stove.
The Hitzer 50-93 is 21 inches deep. Still leaves only 5 inches in back.

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 9:52 am
by dcrane
shoman70 wrote:oh that's not good, 44 inches total space on hearth ( front to back) that would not be enough clearance since stove iss 30 1/2 deep. looks like I may not be getting this stove.
How about rethinking your hearth pad for a more efficient & beautiful work of art that will not only save you tons of money in coal consumption over a DS machine (no pun intended) but will solve the clearance requirements but will also provide you that hopper you find so appealing (the cost is not much different in the end).

Solution...Antique BaseBurner with magazine! cost = $2,500, these stoves are made on the vertical (like coal stoves are supposed to be done) not the horizontal. they will out preform just about anything anyone will suggest, your hearth pad is ideal for one as it sits... start looking for one now and make some calls to local antique shops for one that's reconditioned well (plenty of people here can help you with this). If I had that hearth pad it would be a no-brainer to me!

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 9:58 am
by shoman70
i would't even know where to start looking for this type of stove. I am about 25 mins from allentown,pa. do you know where I would look for this type of stove?

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 10:22 am
by dcrane
I only new England area for these, but I assure you that their will be forum members here who can help you down their and worst case you can refer to our special super secret truck shipping thread to get one of these from anywhere in the country!
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One of our members here called wsherrick knows many places, I will ask him to make a post in this thread with some names and numbers for you to start.

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 10:28 am
by shoman70
ok great, thank you, also looking for someone local to me maybe stop by to look at my set up..

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 12:07 pm
by freetown fred
I seriously doubt the "out perform" concept & personally know that there are some good looking free standing stoves out here. YES, the Base-Burner is a glitzy, functional stove, but would not do well in my 250 yr old broken up farm house without making some serious, not really worth the aggravation, heat distribution designs--
dcrane wrote:
shoman70 wrote:oh that's not good, 44 inches total space on hearth ( front to back) that would not be enough clearance since stove iss 30 1/2 deep. looks like I may not be getting this stove.
How about rethinking your hearth pad for a more efficient & beautiful work of art that will not only save you tons of money in coal consumption over a DS machine (no pun intended) but will solve the clearance requirements but will also provide you that hopper you find so appealing (the cost is not much different in the end).

Solution...Antique BaseBurner with magazine! cost = $2,500, these stoves are made on the vertical (like coal stoves are supposed to be done) not the horizontal. they will out preform just about anything anyone will suggest, your hearth pad is ideal for one as it sits... start looking for one now and make some calls to local antique shops for one that's reconditioned well (plenty of people here can help you with this). If I had that hearth pad it would be a no-brainer to me!

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 1:47 pm
by franco b
The depth of the base burners are much greater with the pipes or castings on the back. Could not have 18 inches in front.

I agree with Fred that the Hitzer 50-93 is the more practical stove.

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 2:40 pm
by michaelanthony
Now cup both hands around your mouth like a pig call and in your best stadium echoing voice........Now... now...Pitching...pitching...For...for...The..the Glenwood...glenwood...Baseburners...burners..number 404...Doug...doug...Crane...crane.... :clap:
Couldn't resist dc :whistle: no one can say you are not passionate. Good point FF, yah beat me too it. I removed a hearth from my living room due to moving a hand feeder into my basement and now I have vigilant 2310 that I want to put in front of my fireplace so..........yup you guessed it I need to build another hearth pad. This one will be a different size because of my varied needs but changing a hearth is your simplest option compared to changing stoves. If clearances forced many a hand there wouldn't be any base burners left!

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 2:52 pm
by Rigar
[quote="freetown fred"]I seriously doubt the "out perform" concept & personally know that there are some good looking free standing stoves out here. YES, the Base-Burner is a glitzy, functional stove, but would not do well in my 250 yr old broken up farm house without making some serious, not really worth the aggravation, heat distribution designs--

its those damn gun towers Fred......Im tellin' ya...
.....they are hard to heat ! :lol:

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 3:01 pm
by freetown fred
But it's gotta be done don'tcha know--it gets damn cold here on the hill and WINDYYYYYYYYYYYYYY--yeah buddy ;)

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 3:04 pm
by freetown fred
Damn, this is where I meant to pit this-- :bang: toothy Sounds like a real nice project ma--don't forget progress pix when ya get to it :)

Re: Hearth Measurement Requirements

Posted: Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 3:20 pm
by dcrane
michaelanthony wrote:Now cup both hands around your mouth like a pig call and in your best stadium echoing voice........Now... now...Pitching...pitching...For...for...The..the Glenwood...glenwood...Baseburners...burners..number 404...Doug...doug...Crane...crane.... :clap:
Couldn't resist dc :whistle: no one can say you are not passionate. Good point FF, yah beat me too it. I removed a hearth from my living room due to moving a hand feeder into my basement and now I have vigilant 2310 that I want to put in front of my fireplace so..........yup you guessed it I need to build another hearth pad. This one will be a different size because of my varied needs but changing a hearth is your simplest option compared to changing stoves. If clearances forced many a hand there wouldn't be any base burners left!
without me, what boring world it would be :woot: Somebody's got to keep things exciting around here :clap: a super large baseburner would come off the rear wall 28" or so, but im sure their are differant sizes that could accomidate. I know one thing for sure... if I was seriously going to spend anywhere near $2000.00 for a new stove... it would be totally restored antique baseburner (It increases in value, looks amazing and is more effecient than anything made today). But I know you guys don't mind buying, moving, hausing around 5 ton of coal per year to keep the football field fead (might as well just dump some bags of coal on a big square steel pad hearth, dose the pile in kero and light it up! (Gives great heat I know!) toothy