Mid-Season Clean & Lube

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Devil505
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
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Post Sun. Jan. 06, 2008 7:31 pm

I just did an unexpected, mid-season cleanout & re-start of my Harman TLC-2000. I figured it wouldn't hurt to lube the shaker mechanism by spraying with WD-40, but I don't expect it will help much with the heat evaporating it quickly. Can anyone recomend a good, heat resistant lubrication to use on shaker mechanisms?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
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Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
Location: Stillwater, New Jersey

Post Sun. Jan. 06, 2008 8:45 pm

I've been using high temp wheel bearing grease on the accessible parts of the mechanism and the hinge pins. It lasts a little while, and smells up the house with the first fire.
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Post Sun. Jan. 06, 2008 8:59 pm

Have you ever tried the spray on dry moly lube that they use for go-kart torque converter drives? It is designed to be used under high pressure, high heat applications. I suppose any moly lube would work.
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Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
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Post Sun. Jan. 06, 2008 9:22 pm

gambler wrote:Have you ever tried the spray on dry moly lube that they use for go-kart torque converter drives? It is designed to be used under high pressure, high heat applications. I suppose any moly lube would work.
Sounds like a good idea, thanks.
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Post Mon. Jan. 07, 2008 3:26 pm

I have had my Mark II for 15 years. I have never lubricated the "internals" but have lubricated the hinge pins and the external shaker lever as well as the blower. Today, I took the grates out, replaced 4 fire bricks (that's all I have had to replace) and cleaned out the fire box. The only thing I noticed was the grates were warped about 1/64". Not bad for 15 years. I did replace the blower this season too so, I really have no complaints................and I bought this stove used. :dancing:
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Coal Size/Type: Rice and Buckwheat Anthracite
Location: Wilkes Barre, PA

Post Mon. Jan. 07, 2008 4:26 pm

gambler wrote:Have you ever tried the spray on dry moly lube that they use for go-kart torque converter drives? It is designed to be used under high pressure, high heat applications. I suppose any moly lube would work.
Also you might try Loctite Silver Never Seize it's rated for 1600* F. I use it on the fasteners when I reassemble a stove and even after a year they come out like they just went in. :)
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Post Mon. Jan. 07, 2008 6:07 pm

[/quote]Also you might try Loctite Silver Never Seize it's rated for 1600* F. I use it on the fasteners when I reassemble a stove and even after a year they come out like they just went in. :)[/quote]

Yes, that Never Seize is great stuff :)
" A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" -- 2nd Amendment to the United States Constitution....
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Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
Location: Stillwater, New Jersey

Post Mon. Jan. 07, 2008 6:12 pm

SuperBeetle wrote:
Also you might try Loctite Silver Never Seize it's rated for 1600* F. I use it on the fasteners when I reassemble a stove and even after a year they come out like they just went in. :)[/quote]

Yes, that Never Seize is great stuff :)[/quote]

I'll pick some up to use on the glass retaining bolts on the Alaska. As careful as I was I still snapped off the 4 lower bolts and had to drill and tap the holes.
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Post Mon. Jan. 07, 2008 8:16 pm

Wood'nCoal wrote:
SuperBeetle wrote:
Also you might try Loctite Silver Never Seize it's rated for 1600* F. I use it on the fasteners when I reassemble a stove and even after a year they come out like they just went in. :)
Yes, that Never Seize is great stuff :)[/quote]

I'll pick some up to use on the glass retaining bolts on the Alaska. As careful as I was I still snapped off the 4 lower bolts and had to drill and tap the holes.[/quote]

Sounds like good stuff. Did a search online but can't find it??
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Post Mon. Jan. 07, 2008 8:36 pm

Devil5052 wrote:
Wood'nCoal wrote:Also you might try Loctite Silver Never Seize it's rated for 1600* F. I use it on the fasteners when I reassemble a stove and even after a year they come out like they just went in. :)
Yes, that Never Seize is great stuff :)
I'll pick some up to use on the glass retaining bolts on the Alaska. As careful as I was I still snapped off the 4 lower bolts and had to drill and tap the holes.[/quote]

Sounds like good stuff. Did a search online but can't find it??[/quote]

http://www.shopperschoice.com/item_item_372112_so ... oogle.html
http://www.motosport.com/harley/productDetail.php ... ger-harley
http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-Anti-Seize-Silver-L ... B0006Q7H2W
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Post Mon. Jan. 07, 2008 10:58 pm

Any decent autoparts store will have never-seize in various sizes.

Greg L
Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
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