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Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 4:14 pm
by just peter
I am restoring the old weso tile stove, I had bought last spring.
Now that I am at the point to put it back together I have the burning question,what to do with the
stove body.
The front, back and side panels are bolted together but will I seal them with cement or can I do that
with that heat resistant rope.
I was wondering if the rope can stand the heat so close at the fire?
Hope that some one can tell.
I like the job but don't want to do it again for the next 20 years on this stove.

Peter.

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 4:22 pm
by freetown fred
jp, how about a pix?

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 4:32 pm
by just peter
Hello, FF.
What toke you so long to ask for pictures :D
I have a few from dismantling the stove some where, but not yet from the complete stove.

Peter.

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 4:42 pm
by just peter
Here a picture.
Peter.

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 4:52 pm
by just peter
And a few more from the dismantling.

Peter.

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 5:00 pm
by franco b
All you are concerned with is the inner stove itself. The outer tiles do not need any sealing.

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 5:12 pm
by just peter
Thank you, Franco.

And yes the tiles are not the problem, but the cast iron panels.
The front, back and side panels I should seal, but with what ?
Cement or cord?

Peter

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 6:08 pm
by franco b
just peter wrote:The front, back and side panels I should seal, but with what ?
Furnace cement unless there are very large gaps which I doubt. You can probably see what was used originally. Rutland furnace cement is very creamy which is good for getting into small gaps. Other makes have more sand which is stronger for large gaps.

Beautiful stove and I like you have the upper heat exchange. Other users have had trouble burning coal in the early models and the grates are probably not too effective with American coal, but I think the stove is worth persisting with and even making some modifications if need be.

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 6:23 pm
by just peter
Thank you Franco,
Attached you find a detail picture of the connection from the side panel and the back panel.
There was only cement so I stick to the cement.
The grate doesn't look much.
I think it is basicly designed for lignite brickets, but I will give it a try with anthracite, or even with some
bituminous coal.

Peter.

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 7:03 pm
by franco b
Just realized you are in The Netherlands. Always amazed at how well people from your country know English. I have read that the native speech of Friesland is the closest thing to English in Europe.

That corner gap looks pretty large but I would not change it without knowing why it is that way, might be a good reason for it.

Looking at the pictures I don't see any grates and assumed you had taken them out. I hope that is the case.

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 8:23 pm
by nortcan
Very nice stove. European stoves are beautiful.
Just like Franco said, better to work with furnace cement. Some have fiber in it and that give a better result cause having a little flexibility. If some gaps are too large you should try to fix it if there is a panel to panel bad fit. If not put a rope gasket with a lot of f.cement .
Keep on sending photos.

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 9:38 pm
by 2001Sierra
Years ago I dismantled my German made Buderus Juno to reseal all the panels, which are the firebox pieces. I used a Rutland product in caulk tube for a caulk gun. The stove was a 3115 not all that large but I used 3 tubes to seal the generous cast iron joints.
Mine even had that little door pictured to put paper in and to light to get the draft going.

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Wed. Aug. 21, 2013 12:03 pm
by freetown fred
jp, beautiful stove my friend. I suspect you've gotten your answer here ;) Like stated, keep them,thar progression pix a comin. :)

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Fri. Aug. 23, 2013 7:02 pm
by just peter
Thank you all for the advice, about using the cement.
Unfortunaly I can't find any Rutland stuff here in Holland.
But there is some replacement to find I'm sure.
I'm just back at home from the late shift,what takes a bit more time as I like due to a rush job
Well its just oil business, and thats why I burn coal :D
Tomorrow I plan to put the stove body together, and I promise I will take more pictures, and post them.
I thank you for the compliment for my English, but because I work in a english enviroment I am quite used to it.
It is 01.00 h in the night so I go to bed.
So have a good night, and drink a nice cup of coffee with Freddy tomorrow morning.
My coal burning brothers.

Peter.

Re: Refractory Cord or Cement.

Posted: Sat. Aug. 24, 2013 6:36 am
by freetown fred
Nice jp, lookin forward to pix :)