Refractory Cord or Cement.

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove
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Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 4:14 pm

I am restoring the old weso tile stove, I had bought last spring.
Now that I am at the point to put it back together I have the burning question,what to do with the
stove body.
The front, back and side panels are bolted together but will I seal them with cement or can I do that
with that heat resistant rope.
I was wondering if the rope can stand the heat so close at the fire?
Hope that some one can tell.
I like the job but don't want to do it again for the next 20 years on this stove.

Peter.

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Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 4:22 pm

jp, how about a pix?
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Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove
Location: North Holland, The Netherlands.

Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 4:32 pm

Hello, FF.
What toke you so long to ask for pictures :D
I have a few from dismantling the stove some where, but not yet from the complete stove.

Peter.

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Stove/Furnace Make: Susler, Weso, Wasseralfingen,
Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove
Location: North Holland, The Netherlands.

Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 4:42 pm

Here a picture.
Peter.
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this is from the ad.

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Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove
Location: North Holland, The Netherlands.

Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 4:52 pm

And a few more from the dismantling.

Peter.
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Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 5:00 pm

All you are concerned with is the inner stove itself. The outer tiles do not need any sealing.

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Coal Size/Type: bituminous coal,
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Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove
Location: North Holland, The Netherlands.

Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 5:12 pm

Thank you, Franco.

And yes the tiles are not the problem, but the cast iron panels.
The front, back and side panels I should seal, but with what ?
Cement or cord?

Peter

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Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 6:08 pm

just peter wrote:The front, back and side panels I should seal, but with what ?
Furnace cement unless there are very large gaps which I doubt. You can probably see what was used originally. Rutland furnace cement is very creamy which is good for getting into small gaps. Other makes have more sand which is stronger for large gaps.

Beautiful stove and I like you have the upper heat exchange. Other users have had trouble burning coal in the early models and the grates are probably not too effective with American coal, but I think the stove is worth persisting with and even making some modifications if need be.

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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Weso 225 C3, Susler Altan, Wasseralfingen 440, Susler Altan
Coal Size/Type: bituminous coal,
Stove/Furnace Make: Susler, Weso, Wasseralfingen,
Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove
Location: North Holland, The Netherlands.

Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 6:23 pm

Thank you Franco,
Attached you find a detail picture of the connection from the side panel and the back panel.
There was only cement so I stick to the cement.
The grate doesn't look much.
I think it is basicly designed for lignite brickets, but I will give it a try with anthracite, or even with some
bituminous coal.

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Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 7:03 pm

Just realized you are in The Netherlands. Always amazed at how well people from your country know English. I have read that the native speech of Friesland is the closest thing to English in Europe.

That corner gap looks pretty large but I would not change it without knowing why it is that way, might be a good reason for it.

Looking at the pictures I don't see any grates and assumed you had taken them out. I hope that is the case.

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Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 8:23 pm

Very nice stove. European stoves are beautiful.
Just like Franco said, better to work with furnace cement. Some have fiber in it and that give a better result cause having a little flexibility. If some gaps are too large you should try to fix it if there is a panel to panel bad fit. If not put a rope gasket with a lot of f.cement .
Keep on sending photos.

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Post Tue. Aug. 20, 2013 9:38 pm

Years ago I dismantled my German made Buderus Juno to reseal all the panels, which are the firebox pieces. I used a Rutland product in caulk tube for a caulk gun. The stove was a 3115 not all that large but I used 3 tubes to seal the generous cast iron joints.
Mine even had that little door pictured to put paper in and to light to get the draft going.

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Post Wed. Aug. 21, 2013 12:03 pm

jp, beautiful stove my friend. I suspect you've gotten your answer here ;) Like stated, keep them,thar progression pix a comin. :)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Weso 225 C3, Susler Altan, Wasseralfingen 440, Susler Altan
Coal Size/Type: bituminous coal,
Stove/Furnace Make: Susler, Weso, Wasseralfingen,
Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove
Location: North Holland, The Netherlands.

Post Fri. Aug. 23, 2013 7:02 pm

Thank you all for the advice, about using the cement.
Unfortunaly I can't find any Rutland stuff here in Holland.
But there is some replacement to find I'm sure.
I'm just back at home from the late shift,what takes a bit more time as I like due to a rush job
Well its just oil business, and thats why I burn coal :D
Tomorrow I plan to put the stove body together, and I promise I will take more pictures, and post them.
I thank you for the compliment for my English, but because I work in a english enviroment I am quite used to it.
It is 01.00 h in the night so I go to bed.
So have a good night, and drink a nice cup of coffee with Freddy tomorrow morning.
My coal burning brothers.

Peter.

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Post Sat. Aug. 24, 2013 6:36 am

Nice jp, lookin forward to pix :)
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