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Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Jktsful
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 503 insert
Coal Size/Type: Nut size
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Post Wed. Aug. 14, 2013 8:31 pm

Looking for a little advice.Got a hitzer 503, and getting it installed in September .My building inspector's guide says I need 36" in front of stove needs to be non- combustible material. My hearth will only extend out about 12" in front of stove ,will a flame resistant rug in front of hearth (over hardwoods) accomplish this requirement? The stove paperwork says 18" is minimum ,but want to make sure I'm covered for inspection. Already had a mantle heat shield made and I have installed that. Thank you

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Post Wed. Aug. 14, 2013 10:30 pm

Normally the clearances set up by the stove maker have been determined in a UL lab, and are accepted by local inspectors. The 36 inch figure is for stoves like antiques that have not been tested that way. The 18 inches in front is what you should have. If the hearth is raised then a straight line from any part of the stove might exceed 18 inches to combustibles. You can always ask the inspector before scheduling an inspection.

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Post Wed. Aug. 14, 2013 10:41 pm

Check on this but I think 12 inches is National Fire Code,for the hearth that is, Thats all I have in front of my 100 year old stove and it passed, look it up online..

I may be wrong but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.. :P

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Post Wed. Aug. 14, 2013 11:00 pm

Thank you for you're time , I meet all the inserts requirements, just not sure how particular inspections go ,stove is in garage and its been awhile since I can say I'm looking forward to winter!

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Post Wed. Aug. 14, 2013 11:07 pm

I was wrong, you need 18" of hearth in front of the stove.. can you back the stove up to the wall more? got photos? Never mind you have an insert..

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Post Wed. Aug. 14, 2013 11:28 pm

grumpy wrote:Check on this but I think 12 inches is National Fire Code,for the hearth that is, Thats all I have in front of my 100 year old stove and it passed, look it up online..

I may be wrong but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.. :P
grumpy wrote:I was wrong, you need 18" of hearth in front of the stove.. can you back the stove up to the wall more? got photos? Never mind you have an insert..

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Post Thu. Aug. 15, 2013 10:22 pm

Just go to local building supply place, get some nice cut 1/2 thick pennsylvania bluestone, do a wide bevel wood frame around it, with router back edge to just go over stone. non flamable and if you pick several different shades of color make nice pattern with it. 1/2 is light compared to 1 inch and thicker. I have 1.5 thick inch piece's under my coal , and oil boiler, both on wood floors.

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Post Thu. Aug. 15, 2013 10:55 pm

I used the slate from a pool table years ago when I had a wood stove.
Nothing is impossible for people who don't have to do it themselves.

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Post Tue. Aug. 27, 2013 7:20 pm

I just slapped some tile on plywood with a flat sheet of sheet metal in between ... I can move that easily ... bldg inspector said OK ...

Like : IIIII = 1 tile

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8 by 12" cheap tiles , cheap plywood, cheap sheet metal ... cost ~ 20 bucks

Structure below:

tile / glue / sheet metal / glue / plywood / piece of cloth (protect flooring)

Flame resistant is not equal to noncombustible .... and I have had coals come out onto the "super structure" I made, no issues...

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Post Tue. Aug. 27, 2013 9:49 pm

36" in front of stove :shock: ...another building inspector being totally unreasonable :mad: 36" + stove + whatever hearth you have behind the stove = NO FREEKING LIVING ROOM!

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Post Tue. Aug. 27, 2013 10:34 pm

If you are worried about this, maybe check city hall. Many of these codes defer to the "authority having jurisdiction" which would be the local fire inspector so whatever he says, goes.
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Post Tue. Aug. 27, 2013 11:07 pm

36 inches is outrageous..... but having said that, I have a wood burning fireplace insert in this house with glass doors and the raised hearth is 18 inches. But in front of that was rug........ :shock: I have seen "sparkles" with some authority go much further then that out of an open stove door. Just my opinion is I would never have a rug that close to a fireplace. Coal stove???? no problem with 18 inches.

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Post Sun. Sep. 01, 2013 10:02 am

KLook wrote:36 inches is outrageous..... but having said that, I have a wood burning fireplace insert in this house with glass doors and the raised hearth is 18 inches. But in front of that was rug........ :shock: I have seen "sparkles" with some authority go much further then that out of an open stove door. Just my opinion is I would never have a rug that close to a fireplace. Coal stove???? no problem with 18 inches.

Kevin
That's because wood stoves are evil :) They want to kill you. :D :D

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Post Sat. Sep. 21, 2013 7:13 pm

Every Town is different. That being said, my town is 16 inches in front. 36 seem a little ( OK a whole lot of BS ) much..
I would go to the town hall and ask them to print you out a copy of the town ordinance . then there is no dispute.

Jeff

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Post Sat. Sep. 21, 2013 7:46 pm

I know that 36 inches seems like a lot but I sure wish I had it in front of my stove. There have been times when hot coals have fallen out, bouncing on to the unprotected floor. The coal doesn't have to be glowing, just hot. I have one burn mark on the hardwood to remind myself to be more careful when tending the stove. It works, too. I now pick up any spilled coal immediately. I plan to get a hearth rug this winter. Take care, Lisa
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