... and So Another Guy Enters Easy Street

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Coal Size/Type: Rice,
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Post Fri. Aug. 09, 2013 6:57 pm

Replacing Fireplace Insert With Used Hyfire Stove

He came over to the farm and we talked about coal and his heating issues and I showed him many stove types and showed Youtube videos. He ended up buying my brandy new Hitzer 50-93 which I think is ideal for his living room situation, his basement is something else. Welcome toolmaker to the club and wish him well.... warm winters ahead. I am sure a little guidance and encouragement from us all will help him past his uncertainty as the world of coal is new to him.

OTOH he is clearly an expert tool maker and I am sure will give us advice in other areas.
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Post Fri. Aug. 09, 2013 7:45 pm

A stove many people love bought from a trusted first class friend of the forum... well done Newbie for paying it forward and helping out others once again :clap:

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Post Fri. Aug. 09, 2013 9:24 pm

Nice ! Keep em coming
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Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22
Location: Chester, NY

Post Sun. Aug. 11, 2013 5:22 pm

Slight change of plan! He now wants my used Hitzer 50-93 to save a little money and he going to put my spare Pocono 110K through a Powervent at the back of the house. I think he has the right formula 4200sq ft in Monticello, NY - yeah you need that stuff. Now I am in desperate, terrible trouble. I now have only a coupla stoves more than I need and the dragon (my wife) has tumbled to the fact that I still have more heating power than I can ever possibly use and we have more pressing uses for the money. After one 800F firing of the little Joul 507 on a very old day she tumbled to the true power of anthracite and the gig was up. :( :( I need advice.
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Post Sun. Aug. 11, 2013 6:34 pm

Above all be nice because she is stronger than you.

You are only doing it for her to insure her comfort. Along that line you might hint that you need a few more to be safe.

The Russians say it is going to get a lot colder.

The way the money is going the stoves will be worth their weight in gold.

Some righteous indignation, but not too much might help.

If she chucks you out at least you will have the satisfaction that the stoves are too heavy for her to chuck out too.

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Post Sun. Aug. 11, 2013 6:52 pm

OMFG you were stashing a Pocono in the archives :mad: rear vent? brass trim? That had my name written all over it :mad3:

Its OK... but I call dibs on the next one!

P.S... how much?

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Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22
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Post Sun. Aug. 11, 2013 7:29 pm

P.S... how much?
Sorry, it's secret and if I told you I would have to kill you. Early birds get the worm. Hint, you wait until it's over 90F and everybody else is at the beach then you pounce, Lee (toolmaker) did and he won. I bought my 8' Woods mower in January, the seller apologized to me that he could not demo it (I knew about the unit beforehand) and in fact he did not know exactly where it was under the ice as it had been plowed in and so I said deliver it when it thaws out in April. Buy coal in June and stoves in the summer. Now I'm down to 10 stoves and getting nervous --- that AnthaKing 220 sure looks cool ........ the ice age is coming...... men with white coats are coming and knocking at the door...... they will never take me alive (apologies to the Tubes, The Completion Backwards Principle and Mr Hate...)
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Post Sun. Aug. 11, 2013 9:26 pm

WOW, my night is now complete with a reference to the Completion Backwards Principle!! :notworthy:
I drive a VW TDI, heat my home & workshop with two coal stokers and have two vintage JD diesel tractors....
The EPA just loves me!!

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Post Tue. Aug. 13, 2013 1:38 pm

So here I am trying to figure out how to set up these stoves, and there is a whole thread about me here!

I didn't realize the post coalnewbie sent me was a link!

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Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22
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Post Tue. Aug. 13, 2013 1:57 pm

Well Lee, you have the stoves (or will soon) and on this board is an endless supply of expert know how. So buddy ask away. Let's start with hooking out that wood stove and selling it to some wood burning sucker, there are plenty of those. Or, if you have a spare chimney then some people install the wood stove as a back up. First thing I would ask is is the wood stove outlet 6" or 8", if it's 6" that is a match for the Hitzer, yes? The Hitzer flu outlet is 28" off the ground could it be a slide in replacement for you? Is your chimney lined if so what with? If you look at the Hitzer dot com site will this stove sit on your hearth? Make sure you have all the clearances that Hitzer recommend but should not be an issue for you. I have a feeling easy street is closer than you think. The Pocono we will get to later. Send pics,we LOVE pics.

Ignore my little irrelevant banter above, we are not burning coal so I am bored.
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Post Tue. Aug. 13, 2013 5:17 pm

I've been reading a lot here about some people feeling a Pocono needs to use a blower to be efficient.

I am planning to put my Pocono in the garage under a den and some bedrooms, a bathroom and a laundry room. The floor above the garage is not that well insulated, but it is tightly sheet rocked.

I would like to stay away from making holes in the house if at all possible.

Any thoughts on whether duct work and a fan are essential?

Also, I believe since there should be a fire door between the garage and living quarters, there should be no place for a wind to carry fire from garage to house. What is the safest way to run ductwork to avoid fire travel? Unfortunately, the central air ducts are above the rooms in the attic in that part of the house.

There will be no cars in the garage, so no gasoline.

You can tell I'm new at this.

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Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22
Location: Chester, NY

Post Tue. Aug. 13, 2013 7:18 pm

I've been reading a lot here about some people feeling a Pocono needs to use a blower to be efficient.
The Pocono has blower fans but they are not powerful enough to drive central ducting but you can blow it from the top with bigger fans but that is a subject for another day. However, those distribution blower fans need to be running if the stove is running at any sort of heat level. I don't wish to confuse you about coaltrol settings just yet. I believe in the magic of ceiling fans to a point. Low noise and fairly high CFM but no way is that whole house ducted air. Just to let you know inspectors do not like open flame heaters in potential garages.
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Post Tue. Aug. 13, 2013 7:27 pm

Is the Pocono considered an open flame heater?

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Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22
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Post Tue. Aug. 13, 2013 8:21 pm

I would think so. It draws in flammable mixes it could blow up like any other fire. Watch solvents!
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Post Tue. Aug. 13, 2013 9:29 pm

Okay, so it looks like the Pocono in the garage is desirable but not practical.

Next choice: It would go in the laundry room between the garage and kitchen. I guess the electric dryer would go in the garage.

For the times I would work in the garage, I'm sure I could hook up some kind of blower or fan to grab hot air near the Pocono and pipe it to the garage near floor level.

I would need to carry coal up five steps. Still better than carrying in firewood from outside.

Now heat from the Hitzer would go up one staircase and heat from the Pocono up the other. There is now no cold air return. How much of a problem is that?

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