Who Makes a Quality Stove That Burns Both Wood and Coal?

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Post Sun. Jul. 21, 2013 12:40 pm

freetown fred wrote: or just learn how to run a good coal stove properly--
I agree! I used my Kodiak comfortably and successfully from September thru the end of May this past season. Chilly days to teens back to chilly days. Couldn't be happier!
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Post Sun. Jul. 21, 2013 1:50 pm

Gary, you make a stove choice yet?
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Post Sun. Jul. 21, 2013 7:25 pm

freetown fred wrote:Gary, you make a stove choice yet?
he learned about Baseburners... its ALLLLLLL over now! Once he uses one of these there is no turning back :lol:

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Post Sun. Jul. 21, 2013 10:39 pm

DS Machine has their new "EnergyMAX" line of stoves, that are supposed to excel at burning coal and wood..... If they work as well as the circulator series, then they have a real winner! I would love to try one, but not with my unlined flue.
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Post Mon. Jul. 22, 2013 5:09 am

freetown fred wrote:Gary, you make a stove choice yet?
Gary is missing since his question :out:
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Post Mon. Jul. 22, 2013 10:41 am

Hitzer, has good hand stoves that will also burn wood, although they are not UL listed to do both..

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Post Wed. Aug. 14, 2013 7:10 pm

Hi,

Just noticed that a few of you were asking if I made a stove choice yet. I'm leaning toward a Glenwood #8. I've been talking to wsherrick, franco b, and norcan who have given me excellent advice and info. My problem is location and air flow which we've been discussing. By the way, if I put the stove about 3 feet from the back staircase, would it create enough heat to harm the wood railing, ballasters, and steps? I know that I could put a kettle of water on the stove to create some humidity. The other problem is going up 3 floors with the piping and then having it stick out of the roof about 8' to 9' high with braces which wouln't look too good...Gary

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Post Thu. Oct. 10, 2013 9:14 pm

In my somewhat limited opinion, ANYTHING, repeat, ANYTHING that is supposed to be a "combination-something-or-other", at best will do all of its "combination tasks" in a mediocre fashion....and remember, I said "at best". A woodstove that will burn coal, or the reverse, will be no different - trust me on this!
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Post Fri. Oct. 11, 2013 12:21 am

I was down at DS Machine last week... Looks like they have a new entry into the wood/coal arena... Their new "ComfortMAX" stove. Looks pretty cool. It has underfire and overfire air, secondary burn tubes for wood, and bypass that allows the smoke a direct exit when loading the stove, and a longer path while burning, to extract more heat from the hot combustion gases. Looks like a real slick setup for someone who wants the option of burning either fuel efficiently. If I didn't already have the circulator, I would be giving one of these stoves some serious consideration. It still uses the bi-metal t-stat to control the burn rate. It's rated at 70k BTU.

I've burned some wood in my DS 1500 circulator, but it only burns wood well when running at a full clip... So it uses lots of wood and makes tons of heat. That kind of defeats the purpose of using wood as a "shoulder season" fuel, when you only need a moderate amount of heat. Trying to throttle it back just makes for a smoky fire, a recipe for fast creosote buildup. The design of the ComfortMAX addresses these issues.

I'd love to buy one, but I need a flue to connect it to... Along with the 2 Warm Mornings I have here, collecting dust LOL...
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Post Fri. Oct. 11, 2013 4:25 am

LDPosse wrote:I was down at DS Machine last week... Looks like they have a new entry into the wood/coal arena... Their new "ComfortMAX" stove. Looks pretty cool. It has underfire and overfire air, secondary burn tubes for wood, and bypass that allows the smoke a direct exit when loading the stove, and a longer path while burning, to extract more heat from the hot combustion gases. Looks like a real slick setup for someone who wants the option of burning either fuel efficiently. If I didn't already have the circulator, I would be giving one of these stoves some serious consideration. It still uses the bi-metal t-stat to control the burn rate. It's rated at 80k BTU.

I've burned some wood in my DS 1500 circulator, but it only burns wood well when running at a full clip... So it uses lots of wood and makes tons of heat. That kind of defeats the purpose of using wood as a "shoulder season" fuel, when you only need a moderate amount of heat. Trying to throttle it back just makes for a smoky fire, a recipe for fast creosote buildup. The design of the ComfortMAX addresses these issues.

I'd love to buy one, but I need a flue to connect it to... Along with the 2 Warm Mornings I have here, collecting dust LOL...
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Post Fri. Oct. 11, 2013 6:21 am

Lots of pics on youtube.com mostly from one dealer but they give a good overview of the energymax line of stoves from DS. Looks like a woodburner to me with some bells and whistles. It looks like a good wood burner but on coal I think you would have some issues with it. That's just me though.....

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Post Fri. Oct. 11, 2013 9:09 am

Fire375 wrote:Hitzer model 354 and 254 burn both well. Use to burn wood in a 354 with good burn times of 8 -10 hours with alittle hot coals left to start the reload. Switched to coal and my goodness did that thing throw the heat and a lot longer burn times than wood.
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Post Fri. Oct. 11, 2013 12:34 pm

dcrane wrote:
"Pics or it didn't happen"! :mad:
haHaha... How could you not take some photo's of this beauty for us LD :( you know how much we love photo's to tell the story :taz:
I took pictures of the ComfortMAX pamphlet. I didn't take any pictures in their shop, I wasn't sure if they were ok with that or not, being Amish and all.
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Post Sun. Oct. 13, 2013 5:59 pm

Looks like a nice unit. Thanks for the information...Gary

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Post Mon. Oct. 14, 2013 1:30 pm

Marathon - like the one in my avatar >>> I wouldn't trade it for the world............

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