VC 2310 to a Harman 111

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Post Sun. Feb. 10, 2013 10:46 pm

I think this means that carbon steel retains more heat per Lb than cast iron.

  • From The Engineering Toolbox
    Specific Heat of:

    Cast Iron 0.11 (kcal/kgoC) 0.11 (Btu/lbmoF)

    Carbon Steel 0.12 (kcal/kgoC). 0.12 (Btu/lbmoF)
I think this means that cast iron radiates more heat per Lb than carbon steel.

Emissivity of Specific Materials
MATERIAL
  • Cast iron:
    Unoxidized TEMPERATURE 212°F 100°C 0.21 EMISSIVITY

    Steel:
    Mild steel, smooth TEMPERATURE. 75°F 24°C 0.12 EMISSIVITY
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Post Mon. Feb. 11, 2013 1:28 am

When talking the Vigilant, as vigIIPeaBurner said; It's the double (mostly glass) doors that really sling the heat. The whole stove radiates heat. But, the double front doors will throw a giant beam of heat (and light), 20 feet or so across the room. And at that distance away, it feels like you're sitting under a big heat lamp. Quite impressive for a stove with no fan. The problem with the "OLDER" Vigilant I had was; No one else knew how to operate it. Not the wife; Not the neighbors.

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Post Mon. Feb. 11, 2013 7:09 pm

oliver power wrote:When talking the Vigilant, as vigIIPeaBurner said; It's the double (mostly glass) doors that really sling the heat. The whole stove radiates heat. But, the double front doors will throw a giant beam of heat (and light), 20 feet or so across the room. And at that distance away, it feels like you're sitting under a big heat lamp. Quite impressive for a stove with no fan. The problem with the "OLDER" Vigilant I had was; No one else knew how to operate it. Not the wife; Not the neighbors.
Lay two quiet ECOFANS on top and the Vigilant, the heat will be kicking all through the house! The temps climbed to 38 F today, the Vigilant will burn for 18 hours!
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For forty days it will remain
St. Swithin's day if thou be fair
For forty days 'twill rain nae mair.'

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Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 2:25 am

oliver power wrote:When talking the Vigilant, as vigIIPeaBurner said; It's the double (mostly glass) doors that really sling the heat. The whole stove radiates heat. But, the double front doors will throw a giant beam of heat (and light), 20 feet or so across the room. And at that distance away, it feels like you're sitting under a big heat lamp. Quite impressive for a stove with no fan. ...>8....

A picture says it best 8-)
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    Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 11:33 am

    Hey VigIIPB, how did you take that image? Did you use a common camera?
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    Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 11:40 am

    We bought ourselves an iPad for Christmas. One of the apps is called Photo Booth that runs the info from the camera thru different algorithms to give different effects to the picture our eyes see. One is called Thermal Camera - that's the one I used. I have to turn up the brightness on my laptop to see the light on the floor in front of the stove. I thought about Oliver Power's statement just before going to bed, :idea: thought about the app and gave it a try. If anything, it's pretty neat 8-)
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    Post Fri. Feb. 15, 2013 11:54 am

    VigIIPeaBurner wrote:We bought ourselves an iPad for Christmas. One of the apps is called Photo Booth that runs the info from the camera thru different algorithms to give different effects to the picture our eyes see. One is called Thermal Camera - that's the one I used. I have to turn up the brightness on my laptop to see the light on the floor in front of the stove. I thought about Oliver Power's statement just before going to bed, :idea: thought about the app and gave it a try. If anything, it's pretty neat 8-)
    Very Cool thanks!
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    For forty days it will remain
    St. Swithin's day if thou be fair
    For forty days 'twill rain nae mair.'

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