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Post Sun. Dec. 23, 2012 12:44 pm

joeq wrote:With all the "near miss" concerns of the "infamous" open ash pan door, has there ever been a "non-human" device, (or non-electrical), that's been manufactured, to warn of impending "doom"? I know Murphys law states "build a fool proof system, and only a "fool" will use it." But I'm wondering if flashing lites, or an irritating beeper might be somewhat beneficial. Then again, those ideas sound electrical, and don't think components such as those would survive the extreme heat conditions associated with a coal stove. And me personally am not a fan of excessive wiring running "amuck", if a mechanical solution is more feasible.
These are common and if properly placed could be effective...

Heat Detectors

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Post Sun. Dec. 23, 2012 1:05 pm

lots of accessories worth investigating. Thanx for posting.

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Post Mon. Dec. 24, 2012 10:48 am

McGiever wrote:
joeq wrote:With all the "near miss" concerns of the "infamous" open ash pan door, has there ever been a "non-human" device, (or non-electrical), that's been manufactured, to warn of impending "doom"? I know Murphys law states "build a fool proof system, and only a "fool" will use it." But I'm wondering if flashing lites, or an irritating beeper might be somewhat beneficial. Then again, those ideas sound electrical, and don't think components such as those would survive the extreme heat conditions associated with a coal stove. And me personally am not a fan of excessive wiring running "amuck", if a mechanical solution is more feasible.
These are common and if properly placed could be effective...

Heat Detectors
I hate heat detecotors. They are not classified as a life safety device and by the time they go off it's too late. Smoke detectors are a life safety device and go off long before there's fire.

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Post Wed. Dec. 26, 2012 8:59 am

I'm On Fire wrote: I hate heat detecotors. They are not classified as a life safety device and by the time they go off it's too late. Smoke detectors are a life safety device and go off long before there's fire.
Well that would defy the laws of physics. If you have smoke I am pretty sure you have a fire on your hands, maybe not yet leaping flames but you've got something burning...

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Post Wed. Dec. 26, 2012 10:25 am

Where theres smoke, theres fire.. not always true. A hot wire will smolder and smoke before its hot enough to reach its ignition point. In most cases there is smoldering before the fire unless the fire is caused by an open flame or there is an ignition of vapors like an open gas can beside your wood/coal stove lol...

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Post Wed. Dec. 26, 2012 11:31 am

No, no. You want to prevent fire? This is definitely the way to go. Residential or Commercial. Just can't beat it.

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Post Wed. Dec. 26, 2012 11:33 am

With a system like that I hope there is lifeboats and floats on hand :woot:

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Post Wed. Dec. 26, 2012 12:09 pm

Those are both pre-action systems from the looks of them.

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