Hitzer 50-93 VS My Mark 1

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy
Location: Chazy, NY

Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2012 6:54 am

Glad you are happy with it so far.

:idea: Don't dump wet coal into the hopper.

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Bootstrap
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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2012 7:18 am

Yup seems like a good product. A bit bigger than the Harman. We'll see how out goes. I got to get it dialed in still.
I pick coal up and put it down.............in my stove!

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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2012 7:33 am

She's a damn good lil stove & yep, you'll love the hopper aspect--that alone is 8 steps up from what ya had. :) grizzly2 has one & might be able to help with the setting up if you need--of course, seems like I've not heard hide nor hair from him as of late???
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-Vigilant-II), D.S. 1600 Circulator
Baseburners & Antiques: MANY (Mostly when burning wood)
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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2012 9:38 am

Bootstrap wrote:Got a Harman mark 1 currently.
There is nothing wrong with it. However, I find that I am struggling to heat 2500 ft/sq. House is insulated well which is probably why I can do it to begin with. Its a ranch style house, stove is in the basement. 2500 ft/sq is full upstairs and basement.
They want $700 for the 50-93, comes with a blower and the hopper. Been used for a couple years. I could probably score it for 5-600. Will I get a reasonable benefit from this stove? Or am I wasting my money.
Both the Harman "Mark-111" , and the "Hitzer 50-93" will crank out the heat. Both stoves are rated near the same, HITZER being a little more. I've been around both stoves during the dead of winter. The HITZER puts out a noticeable amount more heat. At least it felt like it did. At the time, I was also heating double the square footage with my Hitzer 50-93, than my uncle is heating with his Mark-111. Both good stoves. But I favor the Hitzer with it's hopper, finned heat exchanger, bi-metalic thermostat, and flat shaker grates. Myself, I'd buy the Hitzer 50-93 in a heart beat. One more thing; The stack temperature of my uncle's Mark-111 runs about 100* + hotter than my 50-93. Which is probably why the 50-93 seamed to throw more heat out into the room.
We live about 500' apart, with great chimney drafts. No dampers. Oliver EDIT: Must be I can't read!!! You're comparing the Mark-1 with 50-93. The two stoves are not even in the same league.
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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2012 9:59 am

Supposedly they recommend having a damper installed, either baro or manual. Should I?
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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2012 10:05 am

Bootstrap, did you go with a 50-93 or a 30-95?
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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2012 10:09 am

lsayre wrote:Bootstrap, did you go with a 50-93 or a 30-95?
30-95.
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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2012 10:38 am

Bootstrap wrote:Supposedly they recommend having a damper installed, either baro or manual. Should I?
When I bought my 50-93, it was recommended by HITZER to not have ANY obstruction in pipe, meaning manual damper, reduced pipe size, etc.. I installed a manual damper for safty reasons, and took it out when I felt comfortable. It run just fine without any damper. Stack temps were in the operating range. Other members have installed manual dampers (which restrict air flow), and swear by it. Some coal stoves come with built in dampers, forcing the fumes take a longer path to exit the stove. This longer path allows more heat transfer into stove body, instead of going up the chimney. However, I don't believe the longer path is restricting flow. All I can say is; use your head, and be carefull.

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Post Sun. Dec. 09, 2012 1:32 pm

Update over here.
The 30-95 is heating the house well. On cold days, when it gets into the teens I find I have to crank it up to about the 8th setting. with 15 settings, still not going full blast. The stove easily goes 12 hours without any tending what so ever. I have to fill up the hopper once daily. It seems I am burning slightly less coal than with the Harman. I don't use the blower much. I just don't notice a difference in how it heats the house because the stove is in the basement. without a doubt this stove is far easier to use than the Harman.
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Post Sun. Dec. 09, 2012 2:29 pm

OUTSTANDING :)
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Post Sun. Dec. 09, 2012 4:31 pm

I have heated two houses with Hitzer stoves, it would take one hell of a bargin to get me to try something different the next time around.

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Post Sun. Dec. 09, 2012 4:49 pm

Glad to see the Hitzer is doing a good job for you. They make a good stove.

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Post Sun. Dec. 09, 2012 7:16 pm

Bootstrap wrote:.... Hoping to sell the mark 1 for 300.
What's the Mark I like?
Condition... age..?

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Post Sun. Dec. 09, 2012 7:31 pm

Harman is already sold
I pick coal up and put it down.............in my stove!

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Post Sun. Dec. 09, 2012 7:46 pm

Bootstrap wrote:Harman is already sold
Nice. Thanks.

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