Hitzer 75 Coal Stove.
- McGiever
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As stated, you will need everything that a boiler requires.
There ya go...best to hook up a minimum of 80K btu/hr of radiators, or some kind of dump zone.
I have a shaker handle you can have.
I think is fits over 1" square.
There ya go...best to hook up a minimum of 80K btu/hr of radiators, or some kind of dump zone.
I have a shaker handle you can have.
I think is fits over 1" square.
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I have yet to fire the stove, but my initial impression is surprise at how lightly constructed the stove is. From what I've read on here, I was expecting a stove built like a tank. If it weren't for the water jacket, the stove would weigh the same as my Leisure Line. And for that matter, Leisure Line has had to explain why they use 1/8" inch steel instead of 3/16" ever since Jerry started the company. And yet, the science behind the decision was sound and people still question it.
Another slight disappointment with the stove is the thermostat. I had read about BIMETALLIC thermostats and I "assumed" that all modern stoves had one. The Hitzer 75 has a simple rotary dial that you set but does not adjust itself based on room temperature. Not a huge problem, but if I'm at work and the outside temps rise, the stove will be burning hard for no reason.
Has anyone retrofitted a bimetallic thermostat to a Hitzer?
Another slight disappointment with the stove is the thermostat. I had read about BIMETALLIC thermostats and I "assumed" that all modern stoves had one. The Hitzer 75 has a simple rotary dial that you set but does not adjust itself based on room temperature. Not a huge problem, but if I'm at work and the outside temps rise, the stove will be burning hard for no reason.
Has anyone retrofitted a bimetallic thermostat to a Hitzer?
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What is inside the box that the temperature dial is mounted on? It looks identical to my old stove, and mine had a coiled spring inside that reacted to the temperature of the stove body. The control doesn't react to room temperature, it reacts to the STOVE temperature.
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The one he has in the picture is just a bottom air inlet flapper control. Mine being a hot air model has a temp control to start & stop the fan, just mounts on the back towards the top.
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Never considered retrofitting bi-metalic thermo cause it works just like HITZER planned it too. On my 50-93 I set it where it needs to be & the house NEVER fluxiciates temp wisethermo responds to stove temp & stove responds to house temp--I have gone away for 2 days give or take & come back to a nice toasty house in the worst of winter here on the hill. EWF, don't project, Hitzers been building stoves for a long time & they are not idiots.
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I will look more carefully at the dial when I get home. Maybe it does control the flapper based on stove temps?
Fred, the model 75 pre-dates the model 82 and was the first stove made by Hitzer. That means my stove is thirty years old and Hitzer was a young and inexperienced company at that time. So, maybe they learned some things since then. But they made the model 75 for only a short time before coming out with the 82, I can only assume they realized that the model 75 had some shortcomings and made improvements as they learned.
Fred, the model 75 pre-dates the model 82 and was the first stove made by Hitzer. That means my stove is thirty years old and Hitzer was a young and inexperienced company at that time. So, maybe they learned some things since then. But they made the model 75 for only a short time before coming out with the 82, I can only assume they realized that the model 75 had some shortcomings and made improvements as they learned.
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Yes on the flapper & stove temps--take that thermo box apart--I did, just to see what was inside EWF, they are still making improvements as we speak-- as for inexperience?? I think not, back when--they just got the money together to start producing then, that's almost like saying Steve Jobs knew nothing about computers before APPLE was formed???
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There is nothing to retrofit, your stove already has one. The coiled metal strip inside the box is made of two different metals, hence it is a bi-metallic thermostat.freetown fred wrote:Never considered retrofitting bi-metalic thermo cause it works just like HITZER planned it too.
Check out the animation on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimetallic_strip
It is a nice setup...nice enough that a forum member installed the Hitzer control on his Harman: Retrofit Hitzer Thermostat to Harman
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Yes & I beleive the 75 should have the same set up?? cool animation-- I was hoping that was a ZIPPO LOL
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Well, it does indeed have a bimetallic thermostat. I took the thermostat box off the stove and cleaned the strip. Not quite what I had in mind when reading about them on this site. Does any hand-fired stove have a remote mounted thermostat that controls draft and stove temps based on room temperature?
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To my knowledge, no they do not. If I had convinced myself, as it seems you have, that the 75 is not the stove for you, I would put the 75 on e-bay & find something up to your standards. Although I will say, I think if you were to run that stove properly once burning season arrives, I think you will be quite impressed with it's performance.
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Indeed, this has been done for decades.EarthWindandFire wrote:Well, it does indeed have a bimetallic thermostat...
Does any hand-fired stove have a remote mounted thermostat that controls draft and stove temps based on room temperature?
Instead of the bi-meteallic coil to pull the flapper, a spring return 24 volt ac motor getting it's *signal* from a wall t'stat then would pull the flapper.
Here's one...http://www.pexsupply.com/Honeywell-M847A1080-24V- ... rm-linkage
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Yes, you are correct. Instead of done for decades, however; try for over a Century. The first electronic thermostat control was marketed in around 1886 or so.McGiever wrote:Indeed, this has been done for decades.EarthWindandFire wrote:Well, it does indeed have a bimetallic thermostat...
Does any hand-fired stove have a remote mounted thermostat that controls draft and stove temps based on room temperature?
Instead of the bi-meteallic coil to pull the flapper, a spring return 24 volt ac motor getting it's *signal* from a wall t'stat then would pull the flapper.
Here's one...http://www.pexsupply.com/Honeywell-M847A1080-24V- ... rm-linkage
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The question was do any hand fired HAVE one--not an add on, which can be done on any stove.
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Then the answer is yes.freetown fred wrote:The question was do any hand fired HAVE one--not an add on, which can be done on any stove.