Experience With Hitzer 30-95

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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chopper698
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Post Sat. Aug. 25, 2012 8:36 am

I'm looking for a new stove I was considering going back
to wood because my living space is much smaller than I
previously had. I want to be able to burn wood in the fall
and coal when it starts to get real cold. I had a Harman mark
II I use to try and burn wood in it and it was lousy even with
the door open. I was looking at the hitzer 30-95 and have heard
it burns wood in it well. Does anyone burn wood in there Hitzers?

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Post Sat. Aug. 25, 2012 9:24 am

Just an old farmers thoughts chopper, but, if I've got a stove designed for coal, that's what I'm going to use in it--same for a stove designed for wood--I've got one of each. After a season of learning, through a lot of help from this FORUM--I can keep my HITZER 50-93 at a real low idle during even 60-70* days & up it at night to keep this 200 yr old farm house nice & comfortable--a couple of those 80* days I had to open a window-stat or two, like I said, just this old farmers thoughts through experience acquired from the FORUM here. ;)
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Post Sat. Aug. 25, 2012 10:45 am

Yep I'm hearing you Fred

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Post Sat. Aug. 25, 2012 12:17 pm

Guess it depends on the stove truely. My old Glenwoods will burn wood in the fall or spring when I don't want a 12hr or more fire. I usually keep a 1/2 cord around from the tree around the property for that purpose. They are much better at coal burning but can burn wood when I need them too. What's the problem with the Harmon? Sounds like a draft problem if you have to keep the ash door open? Generally speaking, wood needs less air than coal, meaning that wood grates would have small openings.

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Post Sat. Aug. 25, 2012 10:05 pm

Yes, just like Fred said, anthracite is so easy to burn at low heat output makes you forget burning wood. In a small room 10 X 16, an ant stove can idle from Fall to Spring while beeing confortable. Impossible to do with a wood stove.
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Post Mon. Dec. 01, 2014 2:12 pm

Can someone tell me Can Bituminous coal/lump coal be burned in a Hitzer 30-95 ?
I want to burn Bit coal because of the lower cost per ton. Im still looking for a suitable stove to
install in the livingroom. I am wanting it to heat the upstairs also.
Thanks in advance !

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Post Mon. Dec. 01, 2014 3:04 pm

jesepi wrote:Can someone tell me Can Bituminous coal/lump coal be burned in a Hitzer 30-95 ?
I want to burn Bit coal because of the lower cost per ton. Im still looking for a suitable stove to
install in the livingroom. I am wanting it to heat the upstairs also.
Thanks in advance !
The answer is no if you don't want a lot of smoke and soot and smell. If you want to try the local bit coal go as cheap as possible by maybe buying a Warm Morning stove which at least has the reputation of burning it better than others. The stove recommended by member wsherrick who has had experience with them is the antique Florence stoves which have been properly designed for that fuel. I doubt if any stove can match the clean burning of anthracite. Some stokers will do the best job and is the choice of member Berlin who has much experience in both types of stoves. The specific bit coal also makes a big difference. Try to speak to and visit people in your area using that coal. The coal supplier probably could give you some leads. If the stuff burns and gives off heat many are happy and discount the mess but if you want the best then you have to go with anthracite.

All this advice is coming from someone who has never burned bit coal, but unlike government advice I at least know a little about it.

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Post Mon. Dec. 01, 2014 4:20 pm

I tried wood in Hitzer 50-93. Terribly ineffecient and messy. Door was black in about an hour.

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Post Tue. Dec. 02, 2014 10:33 am

Thanks franco and stoker.
I believe I will look for a warm morning stove. They are cheap and seems to be plenty of them out there.
I can get anthracite coal but it is expensive, 300 or more per ton. Bit coal here is 65 per ton and a supplier is just down the road from my house.
Thanks again !

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Post Tue. Dec. 02, 2014 11:10 am

jesepi wrote:Thanks franco and stoker.
I believe I will look for a warm morning stove. They are cheap and seems to be plenty of them out there.
I can get anthracite coal but it is expensive, 300 or more per ton. Bit coal here is 65 per ton and a supplier is just down the road from my house.
Thanks again !


In looking at Warm Morning stoves be sure to get a model with the bricks having corner chimneys in them. I am not sure if older models have them . Condition of brick is important as they are expensive to replace.

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Post Wed. Dec. 03, 2014 12:24 am

Thanks Franco
theres so many of them for sale. I did find a Florence for 750.00 . Thanks again

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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater, Richmond Advance Range, WarmMorning 414a x2
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite
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Post Mon. Dec. 08, 2014 12:01 am

franco b wrote:
jesepi wrote:Thanks franco and stoker.
I believe I will look for a warm morning stove. They are cheap and seems to be plenty of them out there.
I can get anthracite coal but it is expensive, 300 or more per ton. Bit coal here is 65 per ton and a supplier is just down the road from my house.
Thanks again !


In looking at Warm Morning stoves be sure to get a model with the bricks having corner chimneys in them. I am not sure if older models have them . Condition of brick is important as they are expensive to replace.
To Jesepi:

Both the 414A and the 523 both have the corner flues . Make sure they aren't destroyed though . They are expensive to replace but if they are cracked but structurally sound they can be repaired with refractory cement very easy . You could also get some other models that had sheet metal boxes around them . If you search the forum or web you can find old ads with all the listed models . Of course you already know they 414 is 40lbs and the 523 is 100 . If you are using it for supplemental heat either one will do but I don't know if heat the entire 1880 square ft. The blower models would help with this though and if you have a central air system you can put a return over the area of the stove and run the fan and that's another way . The WM will serve you well. They are cheap and easy to restore and also still sell parts for them . It burns Bit very well as you've already seen on my YouTube . Search for CoalTurkey on the forum he has a 523 he burns with .
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Dance of the Blue Ladies --->http://youtu.be/KfzF47S7bFM?list=UUnshvG_vjY7CT9QKfNuB9dg
Mathew 6:33-34

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Post Mon. Dec. 08, 2014 9:47 am

TY smokeyja,
Ill do that. My place is 2 story and the lay out it just may heat the entire house. Thats what Im hoping .

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Post Mon. Dec. 08, 2014 11:23 am

jesepi wrote:TY smokeyja,
Ill do that. My place is 2 story and the lay out it just may heat the entire house. Thats what Im hoping .
Only one way to find out ! You can't go wrong with buying one .
Josh http://www.stellarsmithing.com
-Glenwood #6 Base heater - Richmond Advance Range -2 Locke stove co. Warm Morning 414A -Deville express - wood parlour stove
Dance of the Blue Ladies --->http://youtu.be/KfzF47S7bFM?list=UUnshvG_vjY7CT9QKfNuB9dg
Mathew 6:33-34

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