My Clumsy Ass Broke My High Temperature Ceramic Glass

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 9:07 am

Hi everyone! Well.. it was inevitable. I was going to reload my stove this morning and I accidentally knocked the shaker lever into the panel of ceramic glass and CRACK! Anyone with any suggestions where to get a replacement piece of glass? I have a Vermont castings Vigilant II coal stove. I know that some other members cut a piece of steel to put in place of the glass, but I want to keep the glass. I found one place that wants $68.95. I was hoping to find someplace a little closer to home to maybe go pick it up instead of having it shipped. I live in Coastal central NJ. Any suggestions anyone??? Cheers :D

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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 9:13 am

Decent price,but pull out your Philly yellow pages ;)
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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 9:16 am

when it came down to it, I bit the bullet and spent the money for the official deal.....

thing is after shelling it out, itl'l never happen again on my watch!! 8-)
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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 9:49 am

I priced a piece of glass for my Mk I at onedayglass.com and the price was great. $32. But they want $24 to ship!!

I'm waiting on a price from a local Harman dealer who is apparently still using the Pony Express or carrier pigeon so it'll be the middle of the week at least before I hear anything.
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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 10:02 am

I hate that about online stores, I bought rotors for my car for $12 a piece then had to pay almost $40 to get them to me.
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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 10:06 am

I did that when I had the wood stove where the Harman is now. I tried to get one more piece of wood in the stove and it wouldn't fit and got stuck. I gave it a good tug to get it back out and it broke loose-right in to the window on the door. $60 from the dealer where I bought the stove-and that was in the early 1990's. :mad:
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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 10:19 am

I believe the specific type of glass required is "Robax" (by Schott). If you know the thickness and dimensions, then any glass shop with some Robex sheet stock in that thickness on hand can cut you a piece to fit.
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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 3:40 pm

Bummer!!

Is this the time to remind folks that the glass in coal stoves is not glass? It is clear ceramic and that explains the high price. If you find one for $25ish, it is not the right stuff. I think Lsayer nailed it with "Robax". I think it comes under other names too. I just wanted to make sure no one wasted money on tempered glass or plate glass.
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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 3:57 pm

I did some searching and it appears that the standard thickness of Robax sheets is 5 mm. Other thicknesses (3 mm and 4 mm) are produced by special order only.

5 mm = 0.197 inches
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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 4:02 pm

Heating a circa 1832 farmhouse with a Harman Magnafire Mark I & a 1959 EFM 350 (heating DHW).
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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 9:05 pm

That is an expensive lesson. :(

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Post Sun. Feb. 12, 2012 9:25 pm

Freddy wrote:Bummer!!

Is this the time to remind folks that the glass in coal stoves is not glass? It is clear ceramic and that explains the high price. If you find one for $25ish, it is not the right stuff. I think Lsayer nailed it with "Robax". I think it comes under other names too. I just wanted to make sure no one wasted money on tempered glass or plate glass.
According to the website. http://www.onedayglass.com/neoceram.php
Neoceram® is commonly referred to as glass but it is actually a transparent ceramic. Neoceram is 3/16" or 5mm thick.
Robax sounds like a different manufacturer for the same thing.

The "Neoceram" seems to be rated right.
NeoCeram® can take the heat. Continuous temperatures up to 1470° F
They quoted me $32 and change for a piece 10.5" x 7.25"
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Post Mon. Feb. 13, 2012 6:44 am

jpete wrote:The "Neoceram" seems to be rated right.
They quoted me $32 and change for a piece 10.5" x 7.25"
Good price!
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Post Mon. Feb. 13, 2012 9:48 am

Yeah, I'd say!

I paid about $110 for mine thru Fireglassonline.com - just got a quote from that link above for $78.44 WITH $24 shipping! I remember seeing that site back when I needed glass too, but my computer wouldn't show anything but blank screens whenever I clicked on something. So looks like my computer cost me over $30 .... :mad:

One thing I just noted .... looks like that Neoceram has an AMBER tint to it? Pretty sure that's what I read. Maybe this is why I paid so much for mine. The stock Robax is clear.

EDIT: re-read .... they offer optional tints.
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Post Mon. Feb. 13, 2012 11:45 am

I wish I was still working for U.S.S., I'd be able to cut up a bunch of popular sizes & sell then to everybody a lot cheaper, they use that on all there hot metal cranes & all the windows exposed to heat & or sparks, & have tons of it.
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