Keeping the Stove Burning All Night

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 3:36 pm

What would be the best way to keep a potbelly stove burning all night?
I have all the drafts shut off and I get about a 90% burn rate, the stove is always cold about 9am.
Any suggestions?
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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 5:00 pm

Jtz622 wrote:What would be the best way to keep a potbelly stove burning all night?
I have all the drafts shut off and I get about a 90% burn rate, the stove is always cold about 9am.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
You gotta fix that air leak, fast burn issue first. What size coal are you using again? Nut works really well for long burns.
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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 5:25 pm

Yeah I am using nut

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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 5:27 pm

Jtz622 wrote:Yeah I am using nut
Are you filling the fire pot as high as you can go?
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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 6:25 pm

Jtz622 wrote:What would be the best way to keep a potbelly stove burning all night?
I have all the drafts shut off and I get about a 90% burn rate, the stove is always cold about 9am.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Sorry but pot belly stoves were never meant to be 24/7 burners. They were made to heat up fast and hot but not long and slow.

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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 8:08 pm

SteveZee wrote:
Jtz622 wrote:What would be the best way to keep a potbelly stove burning all night?
I have all the drafts shut off and I get about a 90% burn rate, the stove is always cold about 9am.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Sorry but pot belly stoves were never meant to be 24/7 burners. They were made to heat up fast and hot but not long and slow.
SteveZee wrote:
Jtz622 wrote:What would be the best way to keep a potbelly stove burning all night?
I have all the drafts shut off and I get about a 90% burn rate, the stove is always cold about 9am.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Sorry but pot belly stoves were never meant to be 24/7 burners. They were made to heat up fast and hot but not long and slow.
What about them makes them cool down faster than other stoves? Is it the design or airflow or something?

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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 8:22 pm

Pot belly stoves are not air tight. You can close all the doors and sliding air intakes and air leaks around everything. For home heating you need an airtight coal stove. The doors will have gaskets and the air intake ports will seal tight enough to put the fire out if closed all the way. Your potbelly can probably not be sealed tight enough to get long slow controlled burns. I think someone here tried to seal a potbelly once. Hopefully he will chime in and tell us the results.

A good used modern air tight coal stove would be a much better avenue to pursue. They sometimes go very cheap if they are rusty and need a minor repair. :)
The only redeeming value of winter is that I can have a fire in my stove.

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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 8:28 pm

I better add lest Will and a few others get me excommunicated, There are excellent old stoves. They are very efficient and very high qualtiy and many of them are beautiful works of art. However they are very expensive to buy. :secret:
The only redeeming value of winter is that I can have a fire in my stove.

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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 9:10 pm

So have all the major seams sealed up, but to much air is still getting in for the fire to burn overnight. Anyone have any way to seal the mating places of the doors and the cooktop so I can control the fire better? Mainly looking for longer burn times at lower temp.
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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 9:15 pm

Better yet...
The stove you have is unable to properly regulate the combustion air...
The fuel burns too quickly...
Resulting in a cold stove due to lack of unburned fuel...
'Potbelly Stove' is not in the same league as the 'baseburners'...
I am not an engineer, train or otherwise!
I stay at a Holiday Inn at least once a year!
Most of all I do have common sense and a practical application of logic.
Oh, add humor, on the dry side, along with a wee bit 'o sarcasm.

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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 9:18 pm

Post a few pics of your stove...
Put a bright, battery powered lantern inside the stove...
Darken the room...
Close it up and look for the light...
That is where you are leaking air...
I am not an engineer, train or otherwise!
I stay at a Holiday Inn at least once a year!
Most of all I do have common sense and a practical application of logic.
Oh, add humor, on the dry side, along with a wee bit 'o sarcasm.

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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 9:56 pm

That's actually a good idea! Thanks
But what should I use to seal the leaks with? Furnace cement, silicon glue or Fiberglas rope?

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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 9:59 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:Better yet...
The stove you have is unable to properly regulate the combustion air...
The fuel burns too quickly...
Resulting in a cold stove due to lack of unburned fuel...
'Potbelly Stove' is not in the same league as the 'baseburners'...
The thing is, I have a potbelly, not a baseburner, there has to be a way to make it more efficient. I know I am not going to get nearly as good results as a baseburner, but I can defenatly improve my potbelly.

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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 10:12 pm

Sometimes it is better to cut your losses and move on...
Silk purse out of a pigs ear comes to mind...
You are trying to make your stove something it was never meant to be...
Plent of 'airtight' stoves out there looking for a good home...
I am not an engineer, train or otherwise!
I stay at a Holiday Inn at least once a year!
Most of all I do have common sense and a practical application of logic.
Oh, add humor, on the dry side, along with a wee bit 'o sarcasm.

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Post Tue. Dec. 27, 2011 10:20 pm

Jtz622 wrote:The thing is, I have a potbelly, not a baseburner, there has to be a way to make it more efficient. I know I am not going to get nearly as good results as a baseburner, but I can defenatly improve my potbelly.
Seal the ash pit door as I gave you directions to do.

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