Minor Explosion in Coal Stove
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that's why i'm confused IOF has a DSM 1600, same internal set up.
unless................his comments are about another unit ?
unless................his comments are about another unit ?
I used a Mark III for over 15 years (no secondary air control) and could avoid the explosions by doing basically what kingcoal stated. open ash pan to liven up the fire for a couple minutes prior to shakedown, after it 'livened up' add as much coal as possible leaving a corner exposed for the flames to come through there, leave ash door open a couple more minutes, blue flames would get established on new coal and then close it up. I could go back in about 1/2 hour if I wanted and cover that exposed corner at that point.
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His draft is very weak where yours is strong.KingCoal wrote:that's why i'm confused IOF has a DSM 1600, same internal set up.
unless................his comments are about another unit ?
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seems like all the more reason to get it burning hot before the refill process.
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Did you have a stove pipe damper closed off ? If so, that's why. Also see below.
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You don't need a damper closed off on order for this to happen. I have seen this happen in many different types of set ups and the one thing they all had in common was lack of over fire air.coalcracker wrote:Did you have a stove pipe damper closed off ? If so, that's why.
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I agree. You could have the manual damper wide open but if there is lack of secondary air to keep the volatile gases diluted then yer in for a boom.SuperBeetle wrote:You don't need a damper closed off on order for this to happen. I have seen this happen in many different types of set ups and the one thing they all had in common was lack of over fire air.coalcracker wrote:Did you have a stove pipe damper closed off ? If so, that's why.
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Yep - done the BOOM several times in both my Harman MARK I and MARK III stoves ... wait for it ........ WITHOUT a DAMPER. Imagine that?coalcracker wrote:Did you have a stove pipe damper closed off ? If so, that's why. Also see below.
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I agree with this but also consider that after shaking a surplus amount of primary air can penetrate the coal bed if the air damper is open to then act as secondary air. You can still have a boom but the chances are much less.Lightning wrote:I agree. You could have the manual damper wide open but if there is lack of secondary air to keep the volatile gases diluted then yer in for a boom.
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Yep I've had a few booms myself. No damper installed. I have a few buddies that have had the same thing happen one with a damper wide open and two others with no dampers installed. In all cases there was no over fire air. In order to solve this my problem in my application, I leave the load door cracked so it pulls in some secondary air. Works well.......... ya just gotta remember to latch the door after it lights off.
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Don't matter if there is a damper or not, it's the lack of overfire air that causes it. When reloading I always leave a little spot uncovered so the flames can burn off the gases.
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I am just chimming in hear, with my ds1600 having auto secondary air, daily after a 12-24hr burn I shake down 1st fully covering all red coals and reload. 30-60 seconds later I have blue flames. Never any explosions . Never opening any doors or touching mpd.
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I just had a little pop happen yesterday. I shook the bed down thus moving fresh coal from the hopper (gravity fed) to the bed then I opened the hopper door (top loading) and it made a blue flash and a popping sound. There was no damage done. It startled me more than anything.
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Wait till ya have a nuclear blast and see the ash cloud going across the room
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You been watchin me fire my Clayton? Where did ya hide the camera?SuperBeetle wrote:Wait till ya have a nuclear blast and see the ash cloud going across the room
I've singed my eyebrows, mustache and arm hair more than once. Last time it happened, I stood up just in time to watch the flames completely wrap around my waist.