Harmon MK1 Questions

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Post Sat. Sep. 15, 2007 10:44 pm

I'd buy the used one that is in the classifieds, give it a coat of fresh stove paint in your choice of colors and save $600, put the savings into your hearth and chimney.

Even if you have to rent a truck to go get it it would be less than a new one, and just as good.

Greg L
Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 12:46 am

I concure Greg thats way I told him about it 2 or 3 days ago that is a great deal Half price you can't beet that so ron54 what about it :?: have you cancelled your kodiak order yet
J.C.

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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 6:10 am

coal berner wrote:I concure Greg thats way I told him about it 2 or 3 days ago that is a great deal Half price you can't beet that so ron54 what about it :?: have you cancelled your kodiak order yet
I'm not interested in used. I have no way of knowing its mechanical condition, and even if I found one that was nice, how would I get it delivered?

The Kodiak is on hold till Tuesday, but I don't like that you have to open the ash door to shake the grate--that would make for dust to escape while shaking

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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 7:43 pm

If I could find a used Mark I within driving condition, I'd buy it for now. I have two flues which of only one is in use. I want to be able to burn the small unit when the weather is not really cold enough for the blast furnace in the basement to be fired up.
Cap
Lehigh Twp.
Northampton Co., PA

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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 7:56 pm

Ron, these stoves are very simple products. If the doors open and close, the grate handle moves the grates, and there are no holes rusted through [virtually impossible] then the stove is worth the price.

I know many people feel that if something isn't new it isn't any good. But these stoves are close to buying a used anvil. They are pretty indestructable. A Harman stove is made from either 3/16" or 1/4" plate steel, made to last a lifetime.

As for delivery, if you post where you live, you may find someone on the forum who may be willing to help with pickup and delivery.

Where there is a will there is a way.

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Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
Running an Axeman-Anderson 260M boiler burning Pea, About 150-250#per day
Farming, Fixing, Fabricating and Flying: 'spare time' what's that?

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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 8:37 pm

I'm in Milford PA. Just built the hearth pad today, regardless of which stove I purchase.

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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 8:37 pm

Ron,

I have a Mark I and am very satisfied with it. It was going through a lot of coal until I checked the draft and installed a baro damper. I had too much draft, the damper allowed me to obtain longer burn times and more heat per load of coal.

I'd consider the used Harmon.

I can't believe the dealer won't order the stove you want!, sounds like he wants to sell one he has in stock. When I bought mine the dealer had the brass trim models and the plain, it's really only the loading door and a few other pieces.
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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 8:54 pm

Wood'nCoal wrote:Ron,

I have a Mark I and am very satisfied with it. It was going through a lot of coal until I checked the draft and installed a baro damper. I had too much draft, the damper allowed me to obtain longer burn times and more heat per load of coal.

I'd consider the used Harmon.
What is sticking out on the left side of yours? Someone has a used MKI near Syracuse NY, which is a several hours away. How would I get it delivered? I would need help also getting it in my home.

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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 9:13 pm

On the left side...let's see...
Looking at the stove as it is in the picture...it might be one of the other objects around the stove. I'll post 2 more views. Also, I had a manometer connected at the time, I just installed the baro damper. You can see the manometer connections in the pictures.

I picked up the stove with my van, and had 2 friends help me remove it. We then secured it to my hand truck and moved it into the house.

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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 9:29 pm

[quote="ron54"]What is sticking out on the left side of yours? quote]

The shaft with the brass handle is to shake the grates. Some units have them permanently attatched, some are removable and you access the shaft by opening the ash door.
Behind the stove there is a metal pail with a lid and a pair of gloves.

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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 9:35 pm

Thanks Coaledsweat for recognizing that Ron was asking about the shaker lever. That's what I get for trying to do 2 things at once. Yes that is a metal pail and gloves.....

I was pouring cement today and must have gotten some of it in the noggin...

John

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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 9:37 pm

Where does one purchase that Dywer manometer and how much does it cost?

Can I make one using tubing and ATF? I made one to balance the throttle bodies on my V-2 cylinder motorcycle engine.
Cap
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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 9:39 pm

I got mine on Ebay.

There is one for sale right now, auction closes in an hour. They cost around $35-40 new.

GregL
Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
Running an Axeman-Anderson 260M boiler burning Pea, About 150-250#per day
Farming, Fixing, Fabricating and Flying: 'spare time' what's that?

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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 10:51 pm

Cap wrote:Where does one purchase that Dywer manometer and how much does it cost?
http://www.grainger.com/product/2T650

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Post Sun. Sep. 16, 2007 11:00 pm

Cap wrote:If I could find a used Mark I within driving condition, I'd buy it for now. I have two flues which of only one is in use. I want to be able to burn the small unit when the weather is not really cold enough for the blast furnace in the basement to be fired up.
Hey Cap the Harman mark 1 is in the free classifieds section on this forum it is the third one on the list Ethan as it 600.00 is half price from a new one check it out do you want to take a ride 194 miles let me know it is only 339lbs with both of us no problem we can take my appliance truck along strap it on and wheel it out give me a call take care talk to you later :)
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