Stove Coal in the DSM
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Just dropped 40# of Stove on the fire...
Just wanted to see what it can do...
Should take it 24 hours to get into the heart of the fire...
Just wanted to see what it can do...
Should take it 24 hours to get into the heart of the fire...
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It will probably do fine, but: will it feed through the magazine?
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I have been burning stove coal in my baby Harman this year. Biggest advantage: the air gaps between the chunks are so large there are always glowing coals more or less exposed, so puff backs after reloading are almost completely done away with. Biggest disadvantage: the air gaps between the chunks are so large that I can load only about 75 percent as much coal (by weight) into the firebox; and it seems to burn up even faster than the 75 percent would predict; so I get significantly shorter burn times and 12 hour burns are hard to attain. I have started loading about 2/3 full with stove coal, then topping off with nut, and that is working well. I will likely revert next winter to entirely nut.
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I tried it my DSM and it did not feed out of the hopper to well. Now I will be truthful, I didn't really leave the whole bed change to stove coal, so It might of fed better if I let it go longer. Let us know how it works and I will try it in mine againwsherrick wrote:It will probably do fine, but: will it feed through the magazine?
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It does go down the magazine...
But I want to see how it fills the firebox...
I have about 350# of Stove and it was cold...
So I thought it would be fun to try it out...
The problem I see will be the ability to fill the corners...
The Stove is burning now but I still have most of the fire bed in Range...
But I want to see how it fills the firebox...
I have about 350# of Stove and it was cold...
So I thought it would be fun to try it out...
The problem I see will be the ability to fill the corners...
The Stove is burning now but I still have most of the fire bed in Range...
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The Stove will not flow properly out of the stock hopper to the edges...
Stove coal loaded by hand with no hopper is nice...
But I lose the advantage of the hopper...
A hopper designed for Stove coal might work...
Stove coal loaded by hand with no hopper is nice...
But I lose the advantage of the hopper...
A hopper designed for Stove coal might work...
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The Stove coal experiment is over...
Hopper in stock design no workie with Stove coal...
Hopper pulled out Stove coal good to burn...
It will be back to Range coal for the season and the joy of loading the hopper...
Unless it gets brutal outside...
Then the hopper gets removed and the Stove will be fed by hand...
Hopper in stock design no workie with Stove coal...
Hopper pulled out Stove coal good to burn...
It will be back to Range coal for the season and the joy of loading the hopper...
Unless it gets brutal outside...
Then the hopper gets removed and the Stove will be fed by hand...
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I think the same thing is going to happen when I get a magazine for the Glenwood. It loves stove coal, but; if I put a magazine in it, then it will be a steady diet of nut coal I think.
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Proper name for the New English hopper...
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I don't agree... No reason in the Glenwood that stove coal shouldn't work in the magazine. From everything I've been told on these, stove coal works with the original magazine...wsherrick wrote:I think the same thing is going to happen when I get a magazine for the Glenwood. It loves stove coal, but; if I put a magazine in it, then it will be a steady diet of nut coal I think.
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The problem was the bottom lip of the magazine is not adjustable...
Stove is way bigger in size than Nut...
So the bed of coal must be lower for the Stove to 'roll' out onto the fire bed...
By the time the pitch was getting to the right angle the bed was getting thin...
If the lip was raised by 5-6" on the stock hopper the throat would be wider...
And the Stove would have the proper pitch to roll to the edge of the fire...
The Stove coal was glowing thru the whole bed...
If I opened up the air past where it was set I could get the stove temps way up to 600*...
Stove is way bigger in size than Nut...
So the bed of coal must be lower for the Stove to 'roll' out onto the fire bed...
By the time the pitch was getting to the right angle the bed was getting thin...
If the lip was raised by 5-6" on the stock hopper the throat would be wider...
And the Stove would have the proper pitch to roll to the edge of the fire...
The Stove coal was glowing thru the whole bed...
If I opened up the air past where it was set I could get the stove temps way up to 600*...
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No doubt on the stove you are using that there is a problem using stove coal. I know in my Vermont, the magazine is adjustable for different coal sizes.
In the Glenwood, the firebox being round, and the way the fire burns, I think it would be a lot easier to run a magazine than in other firebox geometries. Also, the original magazine was probably meant for stove coal as in the early 1900s that was a lot more commonly used.
dj
In the Glenwood, the firebox being round, and the way the fire burns, I think it would be a lot easier to run a magazine than in other firebox geometries. Also, the original magazine was probably meant for stove coal as in the early 1900s that was a lot more commonly used.
dj
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I think you are right. I just assumed that I would have to use Nut sized coal. That shows you how much I know about magazines.dlj wrote:No doubt on the stove you are using that there is a problem using stove coal. I know in my Vermont, the magazine is adjustable for different coal sizes.
In the Glenwood, the firebox being round, and the way the fire burns, I think it would be a lot easier to run a magazine than in other firebox geometries. Also, the original magazine was probably meant for stove coal as in the early 1900s that was a lot more commonly used.
dj