28 Hours!!

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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dutch
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Post Mon. Jan. 22, 2007 10:01 am

Wow, I'm impressed!
I had a nite away from the house
Saturday nite, so I loaded the Mark III
at 3:30 Saturday, made sure I had a
good shake down... and left for the nite,
hoping to return by 4 pm Sunday to a still
somewhat alive fire. Due to an unforeseen detour on the way
home, we never made it home until 7:30 last nite,
and I figured for sure that I would be facing
a totally cold stove and have to start from
scratch, but to my surprise, the fire was
still there, stack temps had dropped to about
100, but the fire still had a good glow, that picked up
nicely when I opened the ash door.
Shook her down and loaded up for the nite and
that was it.
Very impressive!
currently running a Channing III in our basement,
feeding into cold air return and circulated with
forced air furnace.
love the even warm heat!
upstate NY, near Syracuse.

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Gary in Pennsylvania
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Post Mon. Jan. 22, 2007 10:51 am

Woo Hoo!
Nice burn!

On nights that I happen to work overtime, I easily go from 5:30am to 10pm-ish. I am met with a strong fire.
Gary in Pennsylvania
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Post Mon. Jan. 22, 2007 7:56 pm

Lucky! Advantages of a hand loader..

We had a power failure last night for 3-4 hours and our stoker completely went out. The coals were still warm to the touch, but not enough to restart, get out the old starter bag, tossed it in, 15 mins up and running again. I do have a battery backup for transients (maybe 10-15 mins of run time), but I will hook larger batteries up for next winter and maybe a small generator if needed.

Good thing, it's been 5-10 Degrees at night and the house was down into the low 50's brrrrrr. No electric. No Furnance. notta.
- Dave
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Post Mon. Jan. 22, 2007 10:29 pm

WNY. You beat me to the same post!

I left about 1:30 pm Saturday, and returned around 5:30 – 6:00 pm Sunday to a surprisingly warm fire. This is in my old Locke Stove Co 400c "Warm Mornings". This has a big fix box.

I had a good fire Friday night, nice and toasty in the morning. I shook it down, loaded up with a full 20 lb pale at 7am, banked to the front but not the completely full. Then at 1:00pm I loaded it to the tippy top of the fire brick(high in the middle), with two more pales full (40 lb). I shut down the damper until I seen just -.04, at about 300 degree stack. Set my heat spring air control to two from high.. and assumed I’d be cleaning it out when I got back. When I came home, I had about 200 degree stack temp, and just -.02 draft on the chimney. It was interesting seeing how much the fire came down from the firebrick. At least 4-5 inches lower. There was still blue flame when I came home, more to burn… but it would have smothered itself if the draft went lower. I guess a baro would have helped in the case. After it was running wide open for about 30 minutes I got the temp back up, and started adding. I learned never to shack a weak dead fire.

My wife wasn’t pleased with the 64 degree house, which is what the gas furnace was set at. I could tell the furnace only cycled maybe 2 times, because the condensation water goes into a bucket right now. But I didn’t have to start a fire, and didn’t fight about running the gas furnace to bring the temp up to 68. Its 73 in here now, warmed up at night for a nice Warm Morning.

Where I live we aren’t first on the list to get our power back. Its good to know I could just stoke it up … and open my basement door. Its almost eerie running something in 2007 that doesn’t require a computer or power source.

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Post Tue. Jan. 23, 2007 8:18 am

We have a power vent, so no draft, if no power.

Of course, Once I move the stove to the new house( next week or so), we will have it hooked to the 30' chimney without the power vent, and the natural draft may keep it going a bit longer, I will have to check. :)
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Post Tue. Jan. 23, 2007 10:22 pm

each unit has its own attributes and defeicenies. which for me no power to the Harman mag means a trip to the wood pile for the resolute acclaim if not restored in a short period of time.

i have found out that when I get a long burn time on my hand fired unit and feel good about it only to be slightly disturbed when I am unable to duplicate the previous burn the next time around :twisted: but slight subtle changes in settings can cause large differences over burn time rates from a nice dormant fire to a nice pile of dormant ashes.

as long as there is a fire you can recover it in a short time.
what do you mean " it wont light"

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Post Tue. Jan. 23, 2007 10:38 pm

Hey Dutch, is this a Mark 111 ?
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Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
Running an Axeman-Anderson 260M boiler burning Pea, About 150-250#per day
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coal berner
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Post Tue. Jan. 23, 2007 10:50 pm

LsFarm wrote:Hey Dutch, is this a Mark 111 ?
**Broken Link(s) Removed**Greg L
hello L.S. that looks like a mark 1 with no legs on it here is harmans web harmanstoves.com check it out see what you think thanks for responts on p.m. to talk to you later

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Post Wed. Jan. 24, 2007 7:34 am

Greg that looks like a Mark I (no brass trim on top of door). I think the wide angle shot makes it look wider. They are narrower and trimmer than the larger models. One of those things I wish I had a use for - but, I have a fireplace to fill. (Looks funny w/o the legs...)

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Post Wed. Jan. 24, 2007 8:40 am

yea, I agree, Mark I, the space between the ash door and
loading door is much greater than on the Mark II and Mark III's..

charcoal.. hmmmmmmmmm

:P
currently running a Channing III in our basement,
feeding into cold air return and circulated with
forced air furnace.
love the even warm heat!
upstate NY, near Syracuse.

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Post Sun. Jan. 28, 2007 12:59 am

Also the heat vents are in the wrong spot to :wink:
J.C.

Heating house & water with a 1986 electric furnace man DF520 using buckwheat Anthracite coal

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Post Sun. Jan. 28, 2007 7:52 am

Dutch,
You just got to love these Mark III's. I regularly go with a 16 hour burn with a warm house and a good fire still cooking. I tried all three size coal with this stove this winter and found that the pea is too small for me, the nut does excellent but when it gets really cold I'll fill it with stove size coal, and it really puts out the heat and lasts even longer.
Tom

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Post Sun. Jan. 28, 2007 6:56 pm

rouxzy wrote:Dutch,
You just got to love these Mark III's. I regularly go with a 16 hour burn with a warm house and a good fire still cooking. I tried all three size coal with this stove this winter and found that the pea is too small for me, the nut does excellent but when it gets really cold I'll fill it with stove size coal, and it really puts out the heat and lasts even longer.
Tom
I think the next time I buy coal, I will pick up a few
bags of stove coal. I sometimes get larger hunks with
the nut, and it does seem to burn nice.

:)
currently running a Channing III in our basement,
feeding into cold air return and circulated with
forced air furnace.
love the even warm heat!
upstate NY, near Syracuse.

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Post Sun. Jan. 28, 2007 7:13 pm

I just ran some stove size through mine this week for the first time. It really did kick up the output during the real cold snap, and doesn't seem to burn any faster. I think I like having the assortment.
By the way, you can get some HUGE CHUNKS when you get stove. The pieces seem to have more character and you can see the toolmarks from the mining in a lot of them. It's pretty neat.

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