Help Finding Replacements Grates for Old Coal Furnace

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: American Standard Severn (1957) on bituminous
Coal Size/Type: Unscreened-Fist sized lump to powder-Bituminous
Location: Cape Breton, Nova Scotia Canada

Post Thu. Nov. 12, 2009 3:13 pm

I'm not sure of the brand name of my furnace. It is an old coal fired boiler.
There are 5 grates in it. They are attached to a grate shaker arm on the left side.
The grates are 17 inches long and the arm that attaches to the shaker mechanism is 4 inches long from the center of the hole to the center of the pin.
The one in the pics is warped and I have 2 broken. Any ideas or suggestions would be great.
thanks
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Post Thu. Nov. 12, 2009 3:29 pm

Wow, Definitely a little warped.

Try these
http://www.woodmanspartsplus.com/4863/W ... rates.html
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: American Standard Severn (1957) on bituminous
Coal Size/Type: Unscreened-Fist sized lump to powder-Bituminous
Location: Cape Breton, Nova Scotia Canada

Post Thu. Nov. 12, 2009 6:11 pm

Thanks,
I don't see any there that will fit but I sent them an email and pics. Hopefully they can tell me where to find them.
The coal furnace was manufactured in 1957 but other than the grates it is in pretty good condition and throws a lot of heat. With a ton of coal here running at $130 a ton delivered I'd like to fix it up and reduce my heating bill. My other furnace is a New Yorker oil fired boiler.
There are no markings on the coal boiler to tell me the manufacturer. Here is a picture of it, perhaps someone will recognize it.
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Post Thu. Nov. 12, 2009 6:27 pm

It looks like an American Standard model. Those door handles were typical of them. 9 inch smoke pipe.

Go to the oldest plumbing supply you can find to inquire.The model name Severn keeps popping into my head.

Richard

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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: American Standard Severn (1957) on bituminous
Coal Size/Type: Unscreened-Fist sized lump to powder-Bituminous
Location: Cape Breton, Nova Scotia Canada

Post Thu. Nov. 12, 2009 6:54 pm

Thanks Richard,
The smoke pipe is 9 inch. The draft is in the back. I'll keep looking.
Can someone tell me what the purpose of the slider in the loading door is. It is above the fire. I'm new to burning coal as I just bought this house. The furnace was used last winter with the warped grates. There is a cast plate full of holes replacing a broken grate at the front of the firebox.
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Post Thu. Nov. 12, 2009 8:30 pm

imaddicted2u wrote:Can someone tell me what the purpose of the slider in the loading door is.

Overfire air feed, probably for when you burn bituminous coal.
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Post Sun. Nov. 15, 2009 10:56 am

franco b wrote:It looks like an American Standard model. Those door handles were typical of them. 9 inch smoke pipe.

Go to the oldest plumbing supply you can find to inquire.The model name Severn keeps popping into my head.

Richard


Yes, the arrangement of the doors and bolts is similar to MY BOILER...which is early-early and is marked as:

"American Radiator & Standard Sanitary" embossed on the lower door.
"AR & SS" similarly on the boiler plate
Then a Lacquered 4" x 5" plaque, which I believe to have been added when it was converted to OIL
"American Standard" Oakmont...with steam specs. pressures & oil fire rate 2.5gph & etc.

Also on the body (plate) is embossed "steam 15psi"
"water 30" or something like that (I didn't jot it down)

My house was built in 1923 and was initially heated with coal. It may well be that this was the Original Boiler (though ready for replacement,soon)

Bob

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Post Wed. Nov. 18, 2009 8:05 am

Buddy, that appears to be an American Standard SEVERN.. if you would like I will send you a PM. I know where you can get grates for it

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Post Mon. Nov. 30, 2009 5:54 pm

Your boiler is an american standard severn boiler. The grates are warped from not removing the ashes. Curwensville Heating and Plumbing, Curwensville Pa. will have parts for this. 814-236-1711

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Post Mon. Feb. 07, 2011 11:10 am

Does anyone have or know where I can find a manual for a AR & SS furnace? It is a hot water wood/coal furnace. I am looking for the bracket that holds the grates up. I am also trying to find out how to set up the automatic air feeder that is set up with the thermostat. I don't know where to put the weights. Let me know!
Thanks, Dustin

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Post Mon. Feb. 07, 2011 11:24 am

Maybe I'm missing it,but if you'd put your location in your avatar :( --It'd be easier to help you with somwhere maybe localer
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Post Mon. Feb. 07, 2011 2:30 pm

I updated my location :)
thanks

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Post Mon. Feb. 07, 2011 5:02 pm

I know Woodsman helped me with grates on a unidentified stove that I sent pix & measurements of--I hope it works out for you that good :)
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Post Mon. Feb. 07, 2011 5:11 pm

I am almost positive that is an American Standard Severn Boiler. I have had and sold two of them. The one I used for 20 years, was almost a hundred years old. Still in service at the guy's place that bought it from me. My overfire slider was a little different, but everything else is the same. There is a place in Curwensville Pa that carries parts for these including the grates. Call them if you want, talk to John, . (814) 236-0720. They have a huge selection of hydronic stuff, and specialize in coal stuff. I've bought a good bit of stuff there.

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Post Mon. Mar. 26, 2012 10:04 am

I have 6 of those grates for your stove 330-284-2224 dennis

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