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Post By: Sylvesterd101 » Tue. Sep. 11, 2018 10:49 pm

Okay forgive me now because I'm at work but I just bought a home and it has oil heat with an oil furnace is summer winter hookup and oil is way too expensive, so I'm looking at a used Vigilant castings 2310 coal stove. I unfortunately need the oil to heat the water because I can't afford a boiler right now that can take coal, and it currently uses the chimney. would I be able to make the 2310 heat my home with a vent through the wall?

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Post By: franco b » Tue. Sep. 11, 2018 11:08 pm

Welcome to the forum.

You could use a power vent for the oil and the chimney for the stove. If in a basement it will have a hard time heating the house with poor heat distribution.

We need more information about the house.

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Post By: Sylvesterd101 » Tue. Sep. 11, 2018 11:11 pm

Ok ill try to get there tomorrow or following day to upload pictures. Currently working a 12 hour shift, in a cement plant 😭

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Post By: Sylvesterd101 » Tue. Sep. 11, 2018 11:29 pm

Its a 1078 sq ft home. Radiator heathttps://www.zillow.com/homedetails/339-N-2nd-St-Lehighton ... 5661_zpid/ dunno if u can see any pictures

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Post By: franco b » Wed. Sep. 12, 2018 12:05 am

Yes, pictures are good. Will answer tomorrow after some thought. You have a boiler, not a furnace which is hot air heat.

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Post By: coaledsweat » Wed. Sep. 12, 2018 7:36 am

Save yourself the grief and spring for a boiler.

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Post By: Sunny Boy » Wed. Sep. 12, 2018 7:58 am

coaledsweat wrote:
Wed. Sep. 12, 2018 7:36 am
Save yourself the grief and spring for a boiler.
+ 1

Otherwise you'll be needing oil for hot water anyway and the money you save by only using coal could be put toward paying off a coal boiler that much sooner.

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Post By: franco b » Wed. Sep. 12, 2018 9:33 am

Using the present boiler for hot water only you might get by with only one tankfull a year. Also good to have an automatic system in the event of sickness or leaving the house for a period of time.

To be effective a stove has to be installed in the living area. The location of the present chimney, and if you can cut into it from the first floor limits where the stove can go. A power vent can not be used with a stove, but can be used for the oil boiler, which means cutting a hole for it in the basement.

The other alternative is to install a chimney at the first floor level, The easiest being a stainless double wall. Often craigslist will have used pipe in good shape for a fraction of the price of new.

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Post By: Hoytman » Wed. Sep. 12, 2018 9:55 am

The boiler is a great option for you, imo. However, if you have the money the Vigilant being used shouldn't set you back too much. If you get the Vigilant at the right price you should be able to put the stove away until you make your final decisions and if you then decide you don't need it you'll be able to get your money back. Your new piping for the VC will likely cost you more than the used stove.


I currently don't burn coal, but that is the goal for the very near future. However, as "Franco b" mentioned I do have an automatic controlled oil furnaces for those times when I need it (it's my main heat for now) and I have a wood stove. Options during crunch time are always good and always appreciated more after crunch time. Don't get caught with your pants down. That is, don't get caught in winter without having "other" (think additional) heating options.

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Post By: warminmn » Wed. Sep. 12, 2018 11:02 am

I'd just go thru this 1st year on oil and see how many gallons/btu are needed for your home and water heating. That would help you choose a size of boiler you need. Thats if you want to go the boiler route.

That or install a hand fed on your first floor and use the oil to supplement it for home heating. Either way would work. Depends on what you decide.

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Post By: Sylvesterd101 » Thu. Sep. 13, 2018 11:45 am

Thanks for all the helpful input guys! Found a harmon sf260 for 400$ less than stove. And will be going that route.
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Post By: Sylvesterd101 » Fri. Sep. 14, 2018 12:12 am

Okay update guys, im going to look at the harmon sf-260. Im settling on that. Only issue is, how to hell i move a 780lb boiler thats not gonna break my wallet, plus i need to figure out, do i just remove the oil boiler and tank? I went to keller in northampton pa but wasnt able to get an estimate.

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Post By: CapeCoaler » Fri. Sep. 14, 2018 7:48 am

Very Carefully!!!
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Post By: Spacecadet » Fri. Sep. 14, 2018 6:06 pm

Sometimes it's worth the money to pay someone else to do your 'dirty' work. You could call a moving company, around here we have a company called 'Man with a van'. My neighbor used them a few years back to remove a broken boiler and pool table from his basement. He lifted his beer and said." My wallet may be a little lighter but my back doesn't hurt. Best money I ever spent"

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Post By: Sylvesterd101 » Sat. Sep. 15, 2018 8:09 am

Turns out the man imvgetting the harman sf260 from a guy who works for moore township and im paying his coworkers to help move it to the place, so the only thing left would be the install. And im curious what if you used a mixture of coal and coke in it?

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