Can humans compete with robots ?

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Post by BigBarney » Sun. May. 12, 2024 10:17 pm

Or are they just another tool in the arsenal ... Labor at $1.00 hour...



In the next 10-20 years this will be reality... Jobs will change and workers

need to be ready...Education and being able to do the work that needs

the human touch... This will be major disruption...Like when horses were

replaced by vehicles... All those workers were gone in 10 years...

Is the world ready for this? Who knows?

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Post by Richard S. » Mon. May. 13, 2024 1:56 am

Humans do not need t compete with robots. The issue is how this plays out in capitalistic society. Capitalism is circular, the worker gets paid and they buy the products they have produced. This will break that cycle, the employee has no money and the employer doesn't have someone to sell their product too.

 
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Post by theo » Mon. May. 13, 2024 7:10 am

Yes, just blow them up


 
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Post by ColdHouse » Mon. May. 13, 2024 7:40 am

Imagine an old south plantation owner that had slaves. Give them the option of robots and my guess is he wouldn't want to deal with the slaves.
Robots win for jobs.
Life wins for companionship.
Giving love and affection to an AI cat seems pretty stupid to me.
I would rather have a wife that lives and breathes that has spontaneous emotion that I do not agree with than a robot.
I am glad that this is the future generations problems.
I could die living alone in my camper in SC on that property.
But then, there are those that will tell us how much better the average person has it today then they have ever had it before.
I disagree.
Fug it I don't need company, or companionship, or eating out, been there done all that. Give me some well water, basic shelter, a hot and a cot and I am good to go.
Luxuries I can take them or leave them. I certainly don't need them and wouldn't miss them.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Mon. May. 13, 2024 8:01 am

These gloom and doom predictions are not new.

The automobile would put horse workers out of business - instead they went to work in the auto industry.

Computers would put many people out of work, instead it increased jobs.

Robots will replace factory workers, instead they found work in other work.

Every one of these predictions always ignores human capacity for adaptability.

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Post by k-2 » Mon. May. 13, 2024 8:23 am

Everything is not done in a factory. It will be a long time if ever that a robot will be installing a roof for you,or a kitchen,or opening a drain,or fixing an appliance or painting a room or doing your taxes or preparing a rental for occupancy or pouring a sidewalk and finishing it for you or wiring your house or installing solar panels or installing a new heating system. They will be doing mostly repetitious low skilled jobs that unskilled humans are now doing and demanding higher high wages for. What will all those unskilled humans be doing is the question? Probably voting for a leftist promising basic income for all unskilled displaced humans.


 
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Post by ColdHouse » Mon. May. 13, 2024 9:52 am

k-2 wrote:
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Everything is not done in a factory. It will be a long time if ever that a robot will be installing a roof for you,or a kitchen,or opening a drain,or fixing an appliance or painting a room or doing your taxes or preparing a rental for occupancy or pouring a sidewalk and finishing it for you or wiring your house or installing solar panels or installing a new heating system. They will be doing mostly repetitious low skilled jobs that unskilled humans are now doing and demanding higher high wages for. What will all those unskilled humans be doing is the question? Probably voting for a leftist promising basic income for all unskilled displaced humans.
Where does the burden of survival for those without skills lie? More entitlements?
Gloom and doom is a better prediction than The Best is Yet to Come.

 
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Post by k-2 » Mon. May. 13, 2024 10:51 am

ColdHouse wrote:
Mon. May. 13, 2024 9:52 am
Where does the burden of survival for those without skills lie? More entitlements?
Gloom and doom is a better prediction than The Best is Yet to Come.
Life never was a box of chocolates for the unskilled. Or the unmotivated. The burden should lie with themselves as it always has. Other wise there is no incentive to improve. All my skills are self taught .I dont have a single degree from a school other than a high school,so its not so hard to do if there is desire to do it. Its time to stop making responsible people, responsible for everyone. Especially those who have a choice.

 
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Post by Richard S. » Mon. May. 13, 2024 11:11 am

Sunny Boy wrote:
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The automobile would put horse workers out of business - instead they went to work in the auto industry.
This is different because the technology can take any imaginable job created. It's not juts AI, it's the combination of AI, drone technology and 3-D printing.

 
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Post by Richard S. » Mon. May. 13, 2024 11:18 am

k-2 wrote:
Mon. May. 13, 2024 8:23 am
They will be doing mostly repetitious low skilled jobs that unskilled humans are now doing and demanding higher high wages for.
This technology is already being applied in many high tech fields; medical, science and even math.


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