Aliens thread - post links to stuff showing "evidence" of aliens
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ufo-caught-o ... 2d3c&ei=31
See one of recent ... what cameras are these people using ? LOL
See one of recent ... what cameras are these people using ? LOL
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I don't think there are any links whatsoever showing evidence of aliens. When you consider the size and age of the universe, and the relatively microscopic spot of space and time occupied by intelligent life on Earth (and the even smaller slice of time in which we could detect signals from space), it seems extremely likely that extraterrestrial life existed, if it doesn’t currently exist somewhere. Why hasn’t there been contact? Pretty simple. Extraterrestrial life would be subject to the same physical constraints as us Earthly humans and thus, interstellar travel is not viable. Most likely, no life has ever actually gotten past its’ own star.
Realistically speaking, there’s no evidence that lightspeed travel is possible, and lightspeed is still too slow to be a viable method of interstellar travel. It would be a one-way trip, and I say this not just because of how long the trip would be, but the time dilation of going at the speed of light, meaning centuries, millennia, millions of years will have passed outside your experienced few years/decades. Anything you could go back for would be long gone.
Consider the vast distance between stars and the question of sustaining life during a journey. It is 4.2 light-years to the nearest star (and two others at 4.3 light-years), and the fastest we’ve managed to get a spacecraft up to is about 24,855 mi/hour. The speed of light is about 186,411 mi/second. Even if we could increase the speed of space travel a hundred-fold, to 2,485,550 mi/hour, that’s 690 mi/second, or about 0.37% the speed of light. It would still take 1,134 years to get to the nearest star. I’m not saying it’s impossible (I kind of am though), but that’s a hell of a hurdle just to get to the nearest star.
Using the “billions of stars per galaxy and billions of galaxies” argument for the Universe, consider that if we travel out in all directions in a straight line and travel for 5,400 years with the 24,855 mi/hour spacecraft, we would only reach 125 stars or so. It makes the proposal for any colonizing/exploring the universe wholly unpalatable to anyone or anything, as just the act of leaving your solar system to travel to another would require years of time, and result in thousands of years passing in the actual universe. Why would anyone ever want to travel under those conditions? If you could resolve these issues and go faster than light, then it could work, but the only place that provides any evidence of such a breaking of physical laws is within the event horizon of a black hole, which is NOT what you are trying to do. In this very obvious scenario, that is the MOST likely, there never has been life leaving its’ solar system, and life never will.
With respect to radio contact, if we send a signal out in all directions, assumption is it would be too weak to make a blip at that distance. If we target a planet, we have to time to where it will be x years in the future (because we’re seeing where it was x years ago) and time it so we are sure to catch it when it’s on the side of its star nearest us. Then they have to be listening, and know how to send a signal back. It’d still take so long that it’s possible one or the other will entirely forget about it (or wipe itself out) by the time they would be ready to receive the return signal. Which also means no life has detected us, and in all likelihood, no life ever will. Simply put, "evidence" of aliens and UFOs is nothing more than sci-fi fantasy, that while interesting to think about, has little grounding in reality.
Realistically speaking, there’s no evidence that lightspeed travel is possible, and lightspeed is still too slow to be a viable method of interstellar travel. It would be a one-way trip, and I say this not just because of how long the trip would be, but the time dilation of going at the speed of light, meaning centuries, millennia, millions of years will have passed outside your experienced few years/decades. Anything you could go back for would be long gone.
Consider the vast distance between stars and the question of sustaining life during a journey. It is 4.2 light-years to the nearest star (and two others at 4.3 light-years), and the fastest we’ve managed to get a spacecraft up to is about 24,855 mi/hour. The speed of light is about 186,411 mi/second. Even if we could increase the speed of space travel a hundred-fold, to 2,485,550 mi/hour, that’s 690 mi/second, or about 0.37% the speed of light. It would still take 1,134 years to get to the nearest star. I’m not saying it’s impossible (I kind of am though), but that’s a hell of a hurdle just to get to the nearest star.
Using the “billions of stars per galaxy and billions of galaxies” argument for the Universe, consider that if we travel out in all directions in a straight line and travel for 5,400 years with the 24,855 mi/hour spacecraft, we would only reach 125 stars or so. It makes the proposal for any colonizing/exploring the universe wholly unpalatable to anyone or anything, as just the act of leaving your solar system to travel to another would require years of time, and result in thousands of years passing in the actual universe. Why would anyone ever want to travel under those conditions? If you could resolve these issues and go faster than light, then it could work, but the only place that provides any evidence of such a breaking of physical laws is within the event horizon of a black hole, which is NOT what you are trying to do. In this very obvious scenario, that is the MOST likely, there never has been life leaving its’ solar system, and life never will.
With respect to radio contact, if we send a signal out in all directions, assumption is it would be too weak to make a blip at that distance. If we target a planet, we have to time to where it will be x years in the future (because we’re seeing where it was x years ago) and time it so we are sure to catch it when it’s on the side of its star nearest us. Then they have to be listening, and know how to send a signal back. It’d still take so long that it’s possible one or the other will entirely forget about it (or wipe itself out) by the time they would be ready to receive the return signal. Which also means no life has detected us, and in all likelihood, no life ever will. Simply put, "evidence" of aliens and UFOs is nothing more than sci-fi fantasy, that while interesting to think about, has little grounding in reality.
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Good write up. Maybe the UFOs are us returning. Good grief things have changed.
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I don't think distance is an issue that cannot be overcome. Quantum entanglements (where 2 particles are somehow connected) results in the process where one particle exhibits a change and the 2nd particle does an immediate change as well, regardless of distance between the two.
I would say that we do not know how to go from point A to B in an instant yet.
Remember , there is no unified theory yet (and one cannot have rules for big and a different set of rules for little things ~ there must be one system to cover all); einstein and others (remember string theory and its failure) have tried and not yet succeeded.
Remember too, that our mathematical expertise is not yet complete. Its going to be a prerequisite to have full mathematical knowledge if one is going to use it to solve problems.
Calculus was invented by Newton in the 1600s and we still use it today. But still, some things are undefined.
We have much work to do ! Maybe the millennials will figure it all out.
I would say that we do not know how to go from point A to B in an instant yet.
Remember , there is no unified theory yet (and one cannot have rules for big and a different set of rules for little things ~ there must be one system to cover all); einstein and others (remember string theory and its failure) have tried and not yet succeeded.
Remember too, that our mathematical expertise is not yet complete. Its going to be a prerequisite to have full mathematical knowledge if one is going to use it to solve problems.
Calculus was invented by Newton in the 1600s and we still use it today. But still, some things are undefined.
We have much work to do ! Maybe the millennials will figure it all out.
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there are no aliens, these are fallen angels.
Space is fake!
Space is fake!
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This kind of the way I lean, there are spiritual beings that we don't know about, there are ones we do know about that do things we don't know or understand.
The fascination with aliens is fun to me, but for above mentioned reasons unlikely (in the case of physical creatures like ourselves limited to time and space). Where do they come from? Earth? Then their not aliens, if the came from somewhere else, where is close and viable enough to justify travel all the way here? Why the flip would they come here? The liklihood of them finding something here that they don't have (yet do have the ability to travel such vast distance) is pretty backwards...it's like swimming across the Atlantic to England so you can research their Olympic swimming team's strategies so you can beat them...bro...you just swam the ocean!
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https://www.space.com/us-military-shoots-down-obj ... ver-alaska
Got one !
pew pew pew shot one down ...
Got one !
pew pew pew shot one down ...
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Those are invaders.
Some folks here have an issue with shooting invaders .. not me. pew pew pew blast them all.
A country that cannot defend its boarders is lost. If we wanted a bunch of Mexicans here we could have taken almost all of Mexico into the USA after the war with them --- congress decided not to because it would have changed the culture of the USA.
Maybe all the catholic mexicans will change the DNC to be anti-abortion. kek
And if I recall the incident where a boarder agent shot and killed a mexican on mexican land from the USA was found to not be an issue for the agent from the USA justice dept.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/disc-shaped- ... f7fc&ei=21
The pics in the story have zero to do with the story....supposed to dupe the stupid populous I guess. The planes are F16s ... the Thunderbirds as shown in their painted planes ... the UFOs shown are not related to the story...
Is the evidence now over-whelming yet ?
The pics in the story have zero to do with the story....supposed to dupe the stupid populous I guess. The planes are F16s ... the Thunderbirds as shown in their painted planes ... the UFOs shown are not related to the story...
Is the evidence now over-whelming yet ?
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Its not just Mexico. Other top illegal alien origins are China,India.Vietnam and Philippines. With smaller numbers coming from over 100 different countries.davidmcbeth3 wrote: ↑Sat. Jun. 17, 2023 3:53 pmA country that cannot defend its boarders is lost. If we wanted a bunch of Mexicans here we could have taken almost all of Mexico into the USA after the war with them --- congress decided not to because it would have changed the culture of the USA.
Maybe all the catholic mexicans will change the DNC to be anti-abortion. kek