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Post by theo » Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 10:08 am

What is this A1 all the talk is about? :?:


 
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Post by Hootyburra » Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 10:17 am

theo wrote:
Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 10:08 am
What is this A1 all the talk is about? :?:
A1 is a gimmick to make crappy steak taste saltier and crappier.

AI is that stuff that's supposedly going to take over the world. Don't be scared it's just a bunch of 1s and 0s.

 
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Post by theo » Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 10:29 am

Ok,I see ,,,,, And i've been using that A1 for years,,,, thats why my steaks taste sh**ty! :D

 
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Post by Hootyburra » Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 10:34 am

theo wrote:
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Ok,I see ,,,,, And i've been using that A1 for years,,,, thats why my steaks taste sh**ty! :D
:D I used to use it too.

Try a light coating of olive oil and some fresh ground salt and pepper, I also use garlic powder. Get your grill up around 500 and give them 2-3 minutes a side.

Some AI that I find awesome and scary.


 
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Post by theo » Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 10:37 am

That can't be for real!!!! That is creepy! Do they make them in the female model? :lol:

 
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Post by mozz » Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 2:48 pm

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Post by davidmcbeth3 » Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 3:06 pm

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Post by warminmn » Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 3:23 pm

The worry with AI (artificial intelligence) is they can program robots or machines to do anything. Tell it to kill someone and they would try. It could go to far is the worry. True or not I have no idea.

That Mozz! I'll leave his cows alone!

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 3:42 pm

Hootyburra wrote:
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A1 is a gimmick to make crappy steak taste saltier and crappier. ................
It's what made Army cooking tolerable for many guys. :lol:

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Post by Retro_Origin » Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 3:48 pm

Interesting, there's already nearly 8,000,000,000 organic versions of creatures that can do similar tasks....:D once manufacturing figures out they need stop making phillips head screws...then I'll be afraid robots will take over the world...until then though... haha it is amazing what they've been able to accomplish, especially balancing and responding to surrounding situations. However, in some cases, this is kind of like me showing a 2 year old a picture of a basketball with the word 'basketball' written underneath and then asking him what he sees, when he says basketball then saying "look, he can read!"..... I am curious though what the cost of one of these bots is

 
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Post by Richard S. » Sat. Apr. 29, 2023 11:40 pm

Retro_Origin wrote:
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.:D once manufacturing figures out they need stop making phillips head screws...
Saw a very interesting video on this recently. The square drive (or Robertson) actually predates the Phillips. It was a Canadian company and apparently they are very popular there. GM or Ford wanted to use them on their line to replace the flathead screws but they were patented at the time. They opted for the less costly Phillips instead. The Phillips does have one advantage over other types of screws. They cam out more easily than others which is fantastic if for example you are installing drywall with a depth bit.
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However, in some cases, this is kind of like me showing a 2 year old a picture of a basketball with the word 'basketball' written underneath and then asking him what he sees, when he says basketball then saying "look, he can read!"
The AI that is available now is far more intelligent than that. A brief history, back in the 90's Deep Blue which was a multi processor computer beat Gary Kasparov the reigning chess champion. This is not AI, it's ability to brute force calculations in the time given for the rules of the game simply exceeded the capabilities of the human mind to calculate. Processing numbers is something computers have always excelled at, when you boil it down chess is just a game of math.

If you asked it "What was the color of Dorothy's shoes?" it could only respond if you already told it the answer. If it knew the answer and assuming the input was accurate it will be right 100% of the time. The problem is building a database and the CPU to run a machine with all the world's knowledge, history, trivia and whatnot in a question/answer format is impossible. Most kids can answer this question but it requires intelligence, this is the brick wall they ran into back in the 50's. A regular computer can do math that will make the world's greatest mathematician head spin but they can't tell you something that a 5 year old knows. There was actually expectations they would have AI like we do today quickly but were they wrong.

One of the first machines if not the first machine that could be considered AI was Watson, you may be familiar with the Jeopardy shows it debuted on in 2011. Watson was programmed to learn and understand language. Then they fed it the contents of Wikipedia, medical journals, history books, etc. etc. etc. If you asked it "What is the color of Dorothy's shoes?" it can probably answer the question. Note I said probably, one of the key things to understand about AI is it can be wrong. The other key thing to understand is when it is wrong it will determine why it was wrong. AI learns from it's mistakes.

Getting back to the chess an AI computer of today will bury Deep Blue from 90's even if it has less processing power. Deep Blue will make billions of calculations in a chess match, an AI computer may only make a few thousand because it's picking and choosing what calculations to make based on what it has learned about the game from previous plays. An AI computer learns to play chess, just like you were teaching someone new to the game you only need to explain the rules and the object of the game. It's going to be terrible the first game but every game it plays it will improve with no limits.

As far as something like battle field tech that's child play for these machines. You can have a machine that could identify and kill hostile targets in fractions of a second if were armed with a gun. As another example a swarm of small drones with a charge big enough to kill a man or a tank as a group. This technology absolutely exists.

At this point we are really getting beyond the question of what AI can and cannot do. The bigger questions that will emerge now is the moral ones whether its war technology or just a car. The example I like to give is some kid runs out in the road and would get run over with a human driving. On the other hand an AI driven car instantly calculates the physics and determines it can miss the kid but it will have to drive the car into a tree knowing it's going to kill the driver.

 
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Post by Richard S. » Sun. Apr. 30, 2023 12:06 am

theo wrote:
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That can't be for real!!!! That is creepy!
The creepiest thing about those walking bots is their movements look so human like, especially if you see them off balance. They aren't programmed with the intention to mimic human movement, it's just the most efficient way.

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Sun. Apr. 30, 2023 7:38 am

I read, oddly enough, that AI is lousy doing bookeeping. That should keep the accountants busy.

 
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Post by waytomany?s » Sun. Apr. 30, 2023 8:51 am

Richard S. wrote:
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The creepiest thing about those walking bots is their movements look so human like, especially if you see them off balance. They aren't programmed with the intention to mimic human movement, it's just the most efficient way.
Efficient for the way it was built/designed? I remember reading certain joints are not well designed is the only word I can think of. Shoulder joints, I believe, are poorly built. Sorry, more of a ramble than a question. Real question is, is it controllable? Can it go Skynet on its own?

 
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Post by nut » Sun. Apr. 30, 2023 9:24 am

:what: AI for president!


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