Misgendering a person disorderly conduct-jail time stuff?
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[3] Bartow suggests in his briefs that his remarks reflect his discomfort with gender labels and sex stereotypes. Opening Br. at 10-11, Reply Br. at 1-2, 5. He maintains that he used the slur because "just like it can be `offensive and degrading' to be called `[n****r],' it `can be degrading, humiliating, invalidating, and mentally devastating' for a transgender person to be misgendered, to be called `sir' when they are not a male or `ma'am' when they are not a female." Reply Br. at 8 (citations omitted).
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9634 ... s_sdt=8003
An interesting footnote in a disorderly conduct case...the court did not reach a conclusion on this point due to other issues noted in the decision.
But one can foresee disorderly conduct (DC) being a charge for "misgendering" someone.
The court put this in their decision as a footnote so clearly trans people are claiming that DO applies.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9634 ... s_sdt=8003
An interesting footnote in a disorderly conduct case...the court did not reach a conclusion on this point due to other issues noted in the decision.
But one can foresee disorderly conduct (DC) being a charge for "misgendering" someone.
The court put this in their decision as a footnote so clearly trans people are claiming that DO applies.
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He's not crazy, Lightning . Mentally ill.
That's a good one...maybe the charge for misgendering should be breach of peace (a more severe charge than disorderly). He went ape-chitty chitty
That's a good one...maybe the charge for misgendering should be breach of peace (a more severe charge than disorderly). He went ape-chitty chitty
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Yeah, acting like is not going to win over anyone. All that "trans person" did was just reinforce the mentally ill image that many have of trans people. And if you look like a guy but think you're a woman, that is not the fault of other people.
Speaking of jail time,..... how about jail time for verbally assaulting the store salesperson and damaging store items ? Or is it only supposed to be justice for a protected minority ?
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Yeah, I don't understand this either.Sunny Boy wrote: ↑Thu. Apr. 20, 2023 5:27 pmYeah, acting like is not going to win over anyone. All that "trans person" did was just reinforce the mentally ill image that many have of trans people. And if you look like a guy but think you're a woman, that is not the fault of other people.
Speaking of jail time,..... how about jail time for verbally assaulting the store salesperson and damaging store items ? Or is it only supposed to be justice for a protected minority ?
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And this one proceated...feel sorry for the kidwaytomany?s wrote: ↑Thu. Apr. 20, 2023 8:25 pmWhy is the media not keying in on the fact that she said she was justified in knocking over the display. There's no justification for doing damage to the stores property. Have we not learned anything from peaceful protests?
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What ever happened to Free speech. Its now a crime to offend someone,but not a crime to loot ,riot and burn private property. The patients have taken over the asylum.
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That's why down South they refer to everyone as Ya'll.
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How about the guy who may see jail time for making fun of Hillary Clinton votors. THeres a massive blow to free speech.
"Trump Meme-Maker Douglass Mackey May Get Ten Years in Prison for Making Fun of Hillary Clinton and Her
Campaign"
https://redstate.com/streiff/2023/04/01/trump-mem ... gn-n724810
"Trump Meme-Maker Douglass Mackey May Get Ten Years in Prison for Making Fun of Hillary Clinton and Her
Campaign"
https://redstate.com/streiff/2023/04/01/trump-mem ... gn-n724810
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k-2 wrote: ↑Sat. Apr. 22, 2023 11:44 amHow about the guy who may see jail time for making fun of Hillary Clinton votors. THeres a massive blow to free speech.
"Trump Meme-Maker Douglass Mackey May Get Ten Years in Prison for Making Fun of Hillary Clinton and Her
Campaign"
https://redstate.com/streiff/2023/04/01/trump-mem ... gn-n724810
Nope. It's only "half" a blow to free speech. Same thing that was done by someone on the left is still free speech. And to further show it was half-justice they waited four years until the Dems were back in power to charge the guy.
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18 USC 251 & 18 USC 252 covers deprivation of rights. Gov't officials are hardly ever arrested let alone convicted of these.k-2 wrote: ↑Sat. Apr. 22, 2023 11:44 amHow about the guy who may see jail time for making fun of Hillary Clinton votors. THeres a massive blow to free speech.
"Trump Meme-Maker Douglass Mackey May Get Ten Years in Prison for Making Fun of Hillary Clinton and Her
Campaign"
https://redstate.com/streiff/2023/04/01/trump-mem ... gn-n724810
This is the case where the defendants told people to vote on twitter and their vote would be counted ?
If no one actually did then I think that a conviction is not appropriate. I did not follow this case closely.
I think it was more than "making fun of voters" case.
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Article said only 1 person tried to vote.davidmcbeth3 wrote: ↑Sat. Apr. 22, 2023 2:10 pm18 USC 251 & 18 USC 252 covers deprivation of rights. Gov't officials are hardly ever arrested let alone convicted of these.
This is the case where the defendants told people to vote on twitter and their vote would be counted ?
If no one actually did then I think that a conviction is not appropriate. I did not follow this case closely.
I think it was more than "making fun of voters" case.
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I missed that....so, there you go. Article yapping about irrelevant things.