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Post by ColdHouse » Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 10:48 am

When is the last legal war the US has been involved in?
When is the last time they legally declared war against an adversary?


 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 11:08 am

Are you talking about the President asked for and Congress voted that the USA declared war directly on specific nations ? That would be WWII.

If you mean Congress voted for some form of military action as part of the UN, or other coalition, there are a bunch and the debate about their "legality" has become a matter of opinion rather than anyone bothers to look up the facts of what exactly the President, and/or, Congress did at the time.

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Post by ColdHouse » Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 11:12 am

Sunny Boy wrote:
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Are you talking about the President asked for and Congress voted that the USA declared war directly on specific nations ? That would be WWII.

If you mean Congress voted for some form of military action as part of the UN, or other coalition, there are a bunch and the debate about their "legality" has become a matter of opinion rather than anyone bothers to look up the facts of what exactly the President, and/or, Congress did at the time.

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Why would a President choose to bypass Congress? Why not have Congress declare war?

 
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Post by exwoodburner » Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 11:24 am

Yes the last true declaration of war by Congress Article I, Section 8 was WWII, although it happened on 6 separate occasions for that war: once for Japan, Germany, Italy, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania. The US had officially declared war 5 times before WWII...... so all in all 11 times total.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 12:51 pm

ColdHouse wrote:
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Why would a President choose to bypass Congress? Why not have Congress declare war?
Simple,.... it's called partisan politics.

Presidents can legally take military action without Congress, and they have. But there is a time limit on it. After that time is up Congress has to OK it.

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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 12:58 pm

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How many times has a NATO country invaded Russia ?

How many times has Russia invaded a neighboring country ?

Now, find out what caused the formation of NATO.

So, which is the one that the world needs to really worry about, NATO countries or Russia ?

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Post by franco b » Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 12:59 pm

If Russia keeps another part of Ukraine, then we will have "peace in our time".

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 1:10 pm

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If Russia keeps another part of Ukraine, then we will have "peace in our time".

Welcome to Sudetenland version 2.0. Beware Poland,.. history has a habit of repeating ! :roll:

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Post by exwoodburner » Thu. Feb. 02, 2023 1:29 pm

Its rather funny watching this a year after it was published. This clown thought Russia amassing a military force along the Ukraine border was not about an invasion. "I think the Russian military deployments alongside the Ukrainian border at this moment are not about invading Ukraine."

I don't get what is so tough to understand here. Putin is a deranged sociopathic relic of the cold war still in love with the idea of the CCCP. Regardless of what domestic disputes between factions were going on internal to Ukraine, he crossed the border with his military and invaded a SOVEREIGN nation with the intent to capture portions and/or all of said nation. History repeats itself. Always. There is no deep state, NWO, conspiracy rhetoric going on here. Sociopath invades sovereign nation. Rest of world witnesses what has/is taking place and takes appropriate actions to see that sociopathic aggressor is contained. This is very tricky since the sociopath is a relic of the cold war still in love with the CCCP and had access to a large arsenal of nuclear weapons. There's really nothing more to it than that. I always wonder if the outbreak of WWII would have been contained if the US wouldn't have sat on its hands for almost 3 years and watch Europe burn before deciding to get involved. You know like supply like-minded, peaceful countries with arms and equipment to fight back the invaders?

 
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