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by coaledsweat » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 10:22 am
lsayre wrote: ↑Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 9:35 am
Even if it was Iran, why should we get involved. Let Saudi Arabia fight it's own battles. And given the absolutely amazing precision, it could have been an inside job for all I know.
The amazing precision of some of those weapons that never made it to target and came from the northeast are what is going to doom Iran's cover story. I think they are in for a good old fashioned ass whipping this time.
The never made it to target thingy is an Iranian signature. LOL
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by coalnewbie » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 10:31 am
So Iran can now apparently hide their tankers and missiles and have outlets for their oil. Yes LS, they will conclude that the missiles came from Iran as that is convenient and probably true. UAE is running for cover now as they have no military worth a damn and are in a very difficult situation. Iran already occupies some of their islands and there is nothing they can do about it.
So I conclude the Houthis/Iran have now won and control the entrance to the Suez canal and now that is a game changer. We certainly care about that. Time to get out of Dodge and drill baby drill. To costly to do anything else. So we sanction Iran, Russia and China and now they have formed the bad boys club. This is somewhat predictable and something about a Petard comes to mind. Sometimes I like to read Hamlet after shoveling horse chit in the morning.
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by lsayre » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 1:18 pm
The price of oil is starting to swing upward now. Up about 14.33%. The shorts are getting scorched.
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by coalnewbie » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 1:31 pm
All this continues to interest me.
Trump has released our oil reserves but has no need to that shows how unworried we are about this. A rapid China/US minitrade agreement has suddenly just been concluded, so everything is peachy. The world is awash with oil, many loaded tankers are at sea with nowhere to go. SA is going to be able to resume up to one third of the loss in a few days so global oil loss is under 2%.. insignificant. We are all so unconcerned by this minor event! However, traders will not step in front of this express train even though fortunes can be made by shorting if everyone is right. However, oil is up 14% and rising. On reflection, we entered a new event in our history and no one wishes to stand in front of this express train even though the PPT is in full swing.
Booming Texas will now superboom. Drillers on the edge of bankruptcy will storm back. As this is a coal board I will tell you more anthracite will be sold this winter.
There are no good long term possible outcomes from this.
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by lsayre » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 1:37 pm
Ah, when I said the shorts were getting scorched I was thinking of those already short as of last week. I never gave any thought to the opportunity presenting itself at present.
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by coaledsweat » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 1:50 pm
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by coalnewbie » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 2:14 pm
Confirmed and there is nothing we can do. We could start a major war and flatten Iran but Hormuz will be shut big time and every refinery in the area blasted. Like Pearl Harbor we backed our foe into a corner and they struck back.
Where do we go from here ... I have no idea.
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by lsayre » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 3:52 pm
Tulsi Gabbard hits the nail on its head!
https://www.newswars.com/tulsi-u-s-acting-like-sa ... il-attack/
Caution: Nail as used here is a euphemism for Trump. She is smart as a whip.
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by coalnewbie » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 4:04 pm
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by coaledsweat » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 4:41 pm
LMAO!!! That's some certified poop right there.
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by coalnewbie » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 7:35 pm
CS. no arguments here, just presenting all point of view. Geez, what a mess, bring our boys home....
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-27/fightin ... israel-and
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by CapeCoaler » Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 11:51 pm
It's going to get bumpy...
Follow the money...
Religion for the sake of salvation has been the largest war monger bar none...
Many divergent interests in this one...
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by Sunny Boy » Tue. Sep. 17, 2019 6:16 am
coaledsweat wrote: ↑Mon. Sep. 16, 2019 4:41 pm
LMAO!!! That's some certified poop right there.
+1
Paul
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by lsayre » Tue. Sep. 17, 2019 9:41 am
More Trump whipping from Tulsi Gabbard over his handling of the Saudi Arabia situation:
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/ ... -our-pimp/
She is 100% correct on this. And very Presidential. Trump might as well have kowtowed to the Saudi Prince.
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by coalnewbie » Tue. Sep. 17, 2019 10:31 am
She is 100% correct on this. And very Presidential. Trump might as well have kowtowed to the Saudi Prince.
.... hhahahahahaa, U slay me. You are a comedian.The ME is a complex place.
Now let's concentrate on long term oil price effects and how much xtra coal I need to offset zero HO use which is kinda where I am headed. Is this the forerunner of many such attacks as I fear. If so HO is dead around here as oi prices are headed North in the long term.