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Post by BigBarney » Tue. Feb. 27, 2024 7:28 pm

Connecticut:


Off peak rates... Noon to 8:00pm are the only peak hours all weekend off peak...

https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/OCC/BLURB052615pdf.pdf

https://www.eversource.com/content/docs/default-s ... d9afe62_56

• Distribution Customer Service Charge (per month): $9.62
• Distribution Charge
o On-Peak (per kWh): $0.05513
o Off-Peak (per kWh): $0.05513
• Electric System Improvements Charge (per kWh): $0.01218
• Revenue Adjustment Mechanism (per kWh): $0.00080
• Transmission Charge
o On-Peak (per kWh): $0.09563
o Off-Peak (per kWh): $0.02057
• Combined Public Benefits Charge (per kWh): $0.01493
• Competitive Transition Assessment Charge (per kWh): -$0.00045
• FMCC Delivery Charge
o On-Peak (per kWh): $0.00760
o Off-Peak (per kWh): $0.00164

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Post by ColdHouse » Wed. Feb. 28, 2024 5:24 am

BigBarney wrote:
Tue. Feb. 27, 2024 7:28 pm
Connecticut:


Off peak rates... Noon to 8:00pm are the only peak hours all weekend off peak...

https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/OCC/BLURB052615pdf.pdf

https://www.eversource.com/content/docs/default-s ... d9afe62_56

• Distribution Customer Service Charge (per month): $9.62
• Distribution Charge
o On-Peak (per kWh): $0.05513
o Off-Peak (per kWh): $0.05513
• Electric System Improvements Charge (per kWh): $0.01218
• Revenue Adjustment Mechanism (per kWh): $0.00080
• Transmission Charge
o On-Peak (per kWh): $0.09563
o Off-Peak (per kWh): $0.02057
• Combined Public Benefits Charge (per kWh): $0.01493
• Competitive Transition Assessment Charge (per kWh): -$0.00045
• FMCC Delivery Charge
o On-Peak (per kWh): $0.00760
o Off-Peak (per kWh): $0.00164

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Okay. That seems like an option.
Today's batteries can be wired AC. There is no need for Solar to have a battery backup system. All one would need to do is determine if the cost of the battery outweighs the benefit of having the battery.

Time of Use Optional Pricing
On July 1, 2008 a new time-of-use option, the Variable Peak Pricing Rider, became effective. Under this rider, customers receiving service on a time-of-use rate will have the opportunity to purchase generation service from Eversource that is priced on a daily basis during peak hours and on a monthly basis during off-peak hours.

You must have the appropriate metering to choose this rider, so a new meter might need to be installed. If non-standard metering is required, you may be responsible for the incremental costs of such metering.

 
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Post by ColdHouse » Wed. Feb. 28, 2024 6:14 am

BigBarney wrote:
Tue. Feb. 27, 2024 7:28 pm
Connecticut:


Off peak rates... Noon to 8:00pm are the only peak hours all weekend off peak...

https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/OCC/BLURB052615pdf.pdf

https://www.eversource.com/content/docs/default-s ... d9afe62_56

• Distribution Customer Service Charge (per month): $9.62
• Distribution Charge
o On-Peak (per kWh): $0.05513
o Off-Peak (per kWh): $0.05513
• Electric System Improvements Charge (per kWh): $0.01218
• Revenue Adjustment Mechanism (per kWh): $0.00080
• Transmission Charge
o On-Peak (per kWh): $0.09563
o Off-Peak (per kWh): $0.02057
• Combined Public Benefits Charge (per kWh): $0.01493
• Competitive Transition Assessment Charge (per kWh): -$0.00045
• FMCC Delivery Charge
o On-Peak (per kWh): $0.00760
o Off-Peak (per kWh): $0.00164

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So it appears that peak/off peak billing is an option that the consumer can elect to choose. They might need a special meter.
As mentioned a person does not need solar to install a battery.
For me, we do not use AC. Most of our electricity needs are in the morning before 9am and the evening after 6. If I were to choose peak/off peak billing, most of my usage would be off peak without a battery.
The attached picture is a calcuation of all electrical needs for 15,000 kwh for a year comparing Rate 1 flat rate and the variable rate of peak/ off peak using the most expensive peak rate for all consumption to show the maximum possible savings per year if all electrical consumption was provided at the peak rate. Total annual savings $382.65. Obviously it would never be that great a savings because peak hours are only weekdays from noon - 8pm. But even if a person could elect to use peak/off peak billing, the most they would save is that amount. I don't think that would justify the ownership of a battery.

As mentioned previously if the grid was not reliable, then a battery would be/should be considered so that the homeowner is not without power.

Furthermore, when a person in Connecticut enrolls in the Solar Metering program, they do not have the choices of which rate to choose. But as mentioned, every kwh produced is at full retail rate which includes each and every fee. So every kwh I send to the grid is at full rate and every kwh I receive from the grid is at full retail rate.

I do not think purchasing a battery to make big $$ on peak vs off peak rate is a winner. The only reason I would even consider a battery would be if the grid were not reliable.

I have a theory that if a person had limited electricity availability like during a power outage, the smart thing to do would be to use as much power as possible while generating electricity. Run refrigerators, pump water, whatever they can do, Then while power is off use water already pumped, and open the refrigerator as little as possible.

 
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Post by k-2 » Fri. Mar. 01, 2024 4:00 pm

How do things like a solar flare or a man made EMP affect solar panels.Does it wipe them out or just the controllers?

 
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Post by warminmn » Fri. Mar. 01, 2024 5:06 pm

k-2 wrote:
Fri. Mar. 01, 2024 4:00 pm
How do things like a solar flare or a man made EMP affect solar panels.Does it wipe them out or just the controllers?
Its not supposed to but can affect the batteries and I think inverters. Im actually doubtful on the batteries most of the time as most are stored indoors and often under a steel roof and/or even have the batteries in a large box. Hopefully its all safe. Guess a person could build a faraday (spelling way off) cage for the batteries , maybe. If we ever have a huge event we will find out!

Long ago there was a post about solar flares directed at me, reason being my state is so likely to have one. There is a lot of opinions on what will be damaged if it happens. CH's system is probably safe but I guess if it affected his provider he's still be without power.

 
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Post by Hootyburra » Fri. Mar. 01, 2024 7:56 pm

k-2 wrote:
Fri. Mar. 01, 2024 4:00 pm
How do things like a solar flare or a man made EMP affect solar panels.Does it wipe them out or just the controllers?
Hopefully we never have to find out...
I think another Carrington event would put us back in the stone ages.
From my research it really depends on the severity / intensity.
Honestly if some type of event were to happen we'll have a lot bigger issues to deal with than power...
There are pages and pages of discussion on EMPs on the solar forum, enough to make your head spin.

 
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Post by k-2 » Fri. Mar. 01, 2024 9:35 pm

Hootyburra wrote:
Fri. Mar. 01, 2024 7:56 pm
Hopefully we never have to find out...
I think another Carrington event would put us back in the stone ages.
The reason i was asking cuz big part of going solar is in case the grid power goes out but in case of EMP or solar flare i guess everything will be out anyway ,solar included. What about gas generators, i guess those too.


 
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Post by ColdHouse » Sat. Mar. 02, 2024 6:34 am

k-2 wrote:
Fri. Mar. 01, 2024 9:35 pm
The reason i was asking cuz big part of going solar is in case the grid power goes out but in case of EMP or solar flare i guess everything will be out anyway ,solar included. What about gas generators, i guess those too.
This guy probably has it covered:

 
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Post by k-2 » Sat. Mar. 02, 2024 10:30 am

Im really more interested in experimenting with doing everyday functions using no electricity. Possibly Gas or Oil lamps ect. My wood stove offers heat ,some light and cooking functions all while using ZERO electricity. 200 years ago thats how everyone lived and how some of the amish still live today. It good to know how to preserve meat and can food as well. Things that are no longer taught to new generations.

 
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Post by ColdHouse » Sun. Mar. 03, 2024 9:16 am

k-2 wrote:
Sat. Mar. 02, 2024 10:30 am
Im really more interested in experimenting with doing everyday functions using no electricity. Possibly Gas or Oil lamps ect. My wood stove offers heat ,some light and cooking functions all while using ZERO electricity. 200 years ago thats how everyone lived and how some of the amish still live today. It good to know how to preserve meat and can food as well. Things that are no longer taught to new generations.
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Post by ColdHouse » Tue. Mar. 26, 2024 11:03 am

It is nice that the Sun is hitting the panels again!
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Post by BigBarney » Tue. Mar. 26, 2024 12:34 pm

You need to look at a way to use that energy and not export it...

What do you get paid for the exported energy???

How do you heat your house??

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Post by ColdHouse » Tue. Mar. 26, 2024 1:01 pm

BigBarney wrote:
Tue. Mar. 26, 2024 12:34 pm
You need to look at a way to use that energy and not export it...

What do you get paid for the exported energy???

How do you heat your house??

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I get paid full retail including all fees.

 
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Post by BigBarney » Tue. Mar. 26, 2024 3:30 pm

That is a good deal but could be ending soon as in California now...

Only get avoided energy cost by the utility....

Getting full value also gives you the delivery charge ...

That's not right only the energy cost part of your bill...

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