How to get rid of hard water

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Post by hotblast1357 » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 4:00 pm

So after being in the new house for a little while, I’m noticing hard water stains on everything.

I’m on a well, 245’ down.

What are my options for whole house treatment?

I’ve got the water to water plate exchanger which is my biggest worry for build up, but also cleaning the orange off everything is getting annoying.

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Post by coaledsweat » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 4:45 pm

You really need to know what's in it before you look at treatment systems. Have it tested at a lab and then you have your quest.

 
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Post by lsayre » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 4:56 pm

Ward Laboratories is your friend. Their 'W-5' household water test costs only $27.25. The only extra I would ask for is manganese. This is a lab that farmers and micro-brewers use. It is not one of those guys who come over and put magic drops in your water along with fancy strips of paper and conjures up numbers. It is a serious lab that does actual analyticals. Send them a sample and they will get your results to you in a jiffy.

https://www.wardlab.com/index.php

If calcium and magnesium are present and TDS is greater than about 150 it sounds like at the least you will want a decent water softener unit installed. I suggest a dual tank unit, wherein one tank is off line regenerating while the other is softening, for uninterrupted soft water. My wells TDS is an almost unbelievable 876 ppm per my latest check. My calcium is a whopping 153 ppm, and my magnesium is 39 ppm. I also have 315 ppm of Alkalinity (measured as CaCO3).
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 5:01 pm

Just call Randy Cook at Plattsburgh Water Systems. He will come test your water and recommend a treatment system.

You may need to treat iron AND hardness.

 
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Post by grumpy » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 5:34 pm

it sounds like at the least you will want a decent water softener unit installed. I suggest a dual tank unit, wherein one tank is off line regenerating while the other is softening, for uninterrupted soft water
Yes, yes and yes...... get a twin system, you will be glad you did.....

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 5:49 pm

Rob R. wrote:
Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 5:01 pm
Just call Randy Cook at Plattsburgh Water Systems. He will come test your water and recommend a treatment system.

You may need to treat iron AND hardness.
Thanks rob I will look into this.

 
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Post by grumpy » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 6:11 pm

Just so you know HB, showering in good soft water is like showering in baby oil, showering in hard water is like showering in gasoline... I.m exaggerating of course ..


 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 6:15 pm

Lol I know what you mean.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 6:16 pm

Hulbert Brothers has a good water guy also - but you would need to do the install yourself.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 6:23 pm

grumpy wrote:
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Yes, yes and yes...... get a twin system, you will be glad you did.....
Those are very nice but I think the twin tank systems are overkill for most single family homes. On a metered unit, it is not hard to setup a reserve capacity of whatever your daily water usage is, and have the system regenerate at 2 AM.

When you are in a situation where water use can occur at any time of the day, the twin tank systems are the way to go.

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 6:54 pm

Rob R. wrote:
Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 6:16 pm
Hulbert Brothers has a good water guy also - but you would need to do the install yourself.
I’m fine with doing any type of install.

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 6:55 pm

I think I deff wanna stay away from salt softeners.

Been reading about reverse osmosis systems a little.

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 7:03 pm

If iron is present in unacceptable quantities, it has to come out first. It will blind softeners and ROs very quickly. Generally, a manganese filter for that job.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 7:12 pm

hotblast1357 wrote:
Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 6:55 pm
I think I deff wanna stay away from salt softeners.
Why?

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Wed. Apr. 04, 2018 7:15 pm

Having to buy the salt for it.


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